Episode 111: Sympathy for Dominic Molon

October 14, 2007 · Print This Article

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Duncan and Richard talk to Dominic Molon about, Sympathy for the Devil: Art and Rock and Roll Since 1967. There are lots of “Rock out with your cock out!” kind of stupid comments. Paul Klein and Wesley hated it, hear from the curator go check out the show and see what you think.

From the MCA site:

“Sympathy for the Devil: Art and Rock and Roll Since 1967 examines the dynamic relationship between rock music and contemporary visual art, a relationship that crosses continents, generations, and cultures. Since the late 1950s this unlikely hybrid of rhythm-and-blues and country music has had an undeniable impact on society while drastically changing with the times. Artists from the 1960s to the present have maintained a strong connection to rock, beginning with Andy Warhol’s involvement with The Velvet Underground (who released their Warhol-produced landmark album The Velvet Underground and Nico in 1967 — the same year the MCA opened its doors). More recently, artists such as Slater Bradley, Raymond Pettibon, and Mike Kelley have created album covers and music videos for rock bands, while many noted rock musicians such as John Lennon, Bryan Ferry, and Peter Townsend have emerged from art schools.

This exhibition is the most serious and comprehensive look at the intimate and inspired relationship between the visual arts and rock-and-roll culture to date, charting their intersection through works of art, album covers, music videos, and other materials. The exhibition addresses the importance of specific cities such as London, New York, Los Angeles, and Cologne; rock and roll’s style, celebrity, and identity politics in art; the experience, energy, and sense of devotion rock music inspires; and the dual role that many individuals play in both the sonic and visual realms. This exhibition is curated by MCA Curator Dominic Molon.”

Dominic Molon
Paul Klein
Wesley Kimler
Hüsker Dü
Apocalypse Now
Brian Chippendale
Fort Thunder Collective
Jim Drain
Rirkrit Tiravanija
Mungo Thomson
Rita Ackermann
Angel Blood
Royal Trux
Dave Muller
The Whitney Museum
The Guggenheim
The Tate Liverpool
The Velvet Underground
Robert Longo
David Byrne
Richard Prince
James Chance & the Contortions
Rodney Graham
Black Sabbath
Assume Vivid Astro Focus
Throbbing Gristle
Genesis P-Orridge
Psychic TV
Mike Kelley
Destroy All Monsters
Jim Shaw
Tony Oursler
Cary Loren
George Clinton
Iggy Pop
George “The Animal” Steele
Soupy Sales
The Nuge
The MC5
The Stooges
Christian Marclay
David Bowie
Mötley Crüe
Gerhard Richter
Roxy Music
Jay Heikes
The Cure
Black Flag
Sonic Youth
My Bloody Valentine
Ed Paschke
Damien Hirst
Douglas Gordon
Jason Rhoades
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164 thoughts on “Episode 111: Sympathy for Dominic Molon”

  1. Ben Lahey says:

    Pedro Velez is ON with his observations- .He sees the errors- ( “mistakes”)& “offers valid answers, involved in the discussion-with tact, all without “conspiracy theories” or “corrections of others” to have to wade through.

    “In a city where sportsmen and musicians are treated like royalty…you are going to tell me you didn’t have enough time to do research!!!!!

    you are going to tell me you can’t just walk up to the empty bootle and pay 5 bucks for a show!!!!”


    “blogs are important and alter press also…it keeps the pressure…but the money is in the legit mags…the ads…you boycott those mags or you make the big mags come to Chi to find out what’s the problem with the curators and institutions…you make a great press release and caught their interest…this is not an issue Snodgras or the Yood can talk about, it has to be an outisder”…

    “that’s the great thing about hitting bottom, the only way to go is up, that’s when complacent artist, scared artist, politically correct artists, quiet artists will talk and take matters in their own hands”

    Yes.We get sick & tired of BS & finally talk about all that is not being talked about.

    “did I leave Chuck Jones out of the Chi list?”

    ‘I remember a similar situation, (in relationship to Marc’s comments), years ago at the Ren when Simparch did a project with Kevin Drumm,I wrote a negative review of it because I felt that for a project that was about sound and shelter, architecture and social politics, it was instaled in an elitist institution… and the soundtrack was not going to be accessible to poular culture, neither the piece…”


    ‘anyways,I agree with Marc that the MCA, like the Ren then, were trying to mix up high and low culture…or what they believe low culture is, or street wise…or maybe the undergound?”


    “blogs are important and alter press also…it keeps the pressure…but the money is in the legit mags…the ads…you boycott those mags or you make the big mags come to Chi to find out what’s the problem with the curators and institutions…you make a great press release and caught their interest…this is not an issue Snodgras or the Yood can talk about, it has to be an outisder…”

    Yes!! I take note.& i suggest to any Chi Artist- art lover, reading this to do the same-
    start a blog- start a magazine, create debates & discussions-about/in Chi, photo blogs-.etc-

    hate to drag a reality back into the discussion- but,
    as far as the occasional damaging debacles of “What Wesley thinks & the underside to Shark Politics”

    Hmm.. Whose computer am i using??
    Very Stasi like & very funny.
    I was told you should think of working for the Bush administration to hunt down terrorists & perhaps work as an interrogator at Guantanamo Bay.

    You don’t know me- from Adam.

    “What a tangled web we weave when….”

    My previous statements will find themselves “informative”.
    & Of course questions of necessity, emphasis & curiosity-dealing with your shows, etc- remain unanswered.


    Obviously someone does not know the mechanics of the Game Theory. Or that of friendship, or tact.

    There are two people, with guns pointed at each others heads- nobody wins.
    Someone has to come along to take note & at least attempt to get them to lower their guns.

    You do have, a few great talents, at your “group”as i’ve noted a few times.& I wonder if they seriously meditate on your politics.


    Aside from the fact that you have troubles voicing an opinion- or challenging an opinion, without becoming a one man verbal assault-( well with Mark in tow, yes)
    your bizarre & unexpected vendettas upon many individuals ( many of whom were obviously friends at the time)who simply have an opinion- is completely inexcusable & truly crass, tactless & obsessively—— negative.

    What did these individuals, or artists ever- do to you.

    This is- an issue, of how you have treated many people- & the fact that it is rather hard to hold up any argument under such conditions.
    You are not, to be trusted.
    & you as well seem to literally forget, that other people exist.
    They live, work, eat, think, go to art shows, read, rebel.
    You cannot fight corruption with corruption- well you can but it’s just OLD WORLD, OLD SCHOOL.

    Fear mongering & abuse of others- is rarely if not ever- conducive to awareness, learning, or creativity.
    You cannot be both- knowledgeable & “interesting”& rally towards meaningful causes,which people wish to stand behind- to then lie-, & be immature & abusive to them.
    Several people have dealt with your serial abuses, makes sense that some that you work with, have as well been “serial” in their inconsistencies & abuses. Pick? & Choose?
    It is, going to be 2008 Kimler.
    A lot of more important things on the plate next year, might want to think of that & try to work with others & have respect-for them.

    A little more Human & logical & a little less Shark & blind attacker.

  2. TheShark says:

    Snufalufagus, aka Ben Lahey, once more the question is:

    what is the nature of legitimate authority? what makes something true?

    …I happen to believe it has something to do with action speaking louder than words.

    I started the discussion in Chicago about the rock show. Others have joined that discussion and greatly enriched and fleshed it out.

    You, are a petty annoyance.

    As for you and your massive ego -drivel, have you heard of Pallet and Chisel?

    They have beginning drawing and painting courses there I’m told…and since that rancid looking ‘work’ of yours is just barely up to Old Town Art Fair level, perhaps before writing me, or sharkforum or Demian Hirst another of your insipid, rambling nut jobs, you should invest a small amount of time in learning something about what, you profess to be……

    Actually, you did if I remember correctly, try to do just this at SAIC…but they were abusive to you, leaving you deeply offended… OF COURSE!

  3. TheShark says:

    I just cant resist -French Fry, why do I find it highly doubtful until Pedro mentioned James Yood that you even had an inkling as to who he is…..? better hit the google switch-

    You make these comments about the art world here when in fact you are completely ignorant of it. And, the quality of work you make precludes you from being part of it.

    Most people, whether good bad or indifferent as artists, who participate in the art world have studied French Fry, and actually have a clue as to what they are talking about! What a concept! Maybe you should have put in even one semester before mailing that letter out to Demian Hirst offering yourself up as his mentor…….

    As for your judging the ‘talent’ level of anyone here, at sharkforum or, wherever- Dave Roth placed a link to your work up above….anyone wanting to know just how much legitimacy Ben Lahey/Snufalufagus has to making critical evaluations about anything art related should first go look at your -‘paintings’ and I use the word loosely-

    and btw -we dont have guns pointed at each other French Fry- first off, as a shark, I’m not in need of one and as for you, knats dont carry much firepower- it may behoove you to notice.

  4. jessica says:

    pedro– unfortunately we don’t yet have a website (something i and the art faculty are trying hard to remedy), but if you email me (jcochran@dom.edu) i can send you a press release and pass on the curator’s info….

  5. pedro velez says:

    thank you Jessica.

  6. TheShark says:

    epilogue: apparently Patti Smith was given a guided tour of ‘Sympathy For The Devil’ before she performed…..word has it, that she grew progressively more angry walking through the exhibition and finally as she walked away at the end, asked ‘who are the assholes who put this show together? they don’t know anything about rock ‘.

    The PBS piece on the show featuring Molon and The Shark played this sunday…as I don’t do television, I have yet to see it- though I was told by a PBS person I/my problems with this exhibition and the culture it emanates from, came off rather well- that Molons cooments as to why Chicago has slipped from the international scene -excuses as to why he had -5 artists (out of how many?!) from Chicago -all due in his estimation due to our not having a single identifiable movement here (like they do in LA or, NYC)..came off as more than slightly specious and, suspect.

    He claimed to have not done the show to make friends -I pointed out that this was in fact exactly why he did the show -to make friends that is, within the consensoriat corporate community in his efforts at ascending the consensus curatorial ladder-

  7. Richard says:

    Is there somewhere I can see the PBS show online?

  8. TheShark says:

    Apparently not -they are supposed to send me a link -if so, we will put it up on sharkforum

  9. pedro velez says:

    the Velez review of the rock show is up in Artnet

  10. duncan says:

    Actually I’ll be interested to see that. I was at that show today and the other two shows there. Can you post a link?

  11. The Shark says:

    Pedro -thanks for the mention -its Kimler btw……terrific review -can we post it or, a link at least up on sharkforum?

    I finally have the PBS piece which consists of about 2 minutes of Shark and two of conformist curator…..not near enough time to flesh out and then, eat, all that is wrong with Sympathy For The Devil.

    On another sad note as to just how venally insipid our world has become -check out the cover of the new Art In America…..Karen (complete hack) Kilimnick rears her utterly incompetent head….can it get any worse?- being the only viable question left us-

  12. pedro velez says:

    my dyslexia fucks up names, has always been my curse, sorry about that.

    yeah, you can post the review anywhere.

    there should be another one the way about the Steve McQueen show at the Ren and later on an overview of new galleries and artist studios…

  13. Great, great, great article Pedro! I put it up on SF too. Thanks!

  14. bill brenner says:

    WOW! Reading this thread, I am amazed at the shark’s venom. BenLahey/Snufalufagus is well known to me from years ago and this anger seems familiar. My advice to the shark: forget about it. She’ll never love you.

    Oh yeah, the show sucked. At least, though, the MCA removed that gaud-awful winnebago from the sidewalk.

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