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		<title>Thoughts from Across the Cultural Divide: #2 (Ronald Reagan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane McAdams</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in Brooklyn last week I met a couple artist friends at the Boulevard Tavern. Several beers into an informal and boozy summit to transform the mechanisms of cultural production, I made a comment about how faintly the art world registers in small town America. They agreed that this was generally true, but held that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in Brooklyn last week I met a couple artist friends at the Boulevard Tavern. Several beers into an informal and boozy summit to transform the mechanisms of cultural production, I made a comment about how faintly the art world registers in small town America. They agreed that this was generally true, but held that certain properties such as Jeff Koons were universally appreciated. </p>
<p>“Jeff Koons’ balloon dog guest-starred in “Night at the Museum” and he was married to an Italian stateswoman!”</p>
<p>“So what,” I barked. “If you set up an autograph table at a shopping center in Peoria and had Jeff Koons sitting there next to a B-list actor like, say, Harvey Keitel, a line would form in front of Harvey that would lead around the block and they’d think Koonsy was his assistant.” </p>
<p>Buddy #1 disagreed that Harvey Keitel was B-list, and I granted that he was a poor choice as an example. Buddy #2 wondered if and why anyone would line up at a shopping center for crappy celebrity autographs, and I granted that the scenario was a poor choice to reflect recognition. We were splitting hairs at that point, quibbling over semantics about what is “small town” America and what are the measures of “universality.” But even after accounting for the language slippages and fallibilities, we remained in disagreement over Jeff Koons’ esteem outside the cultural beltway. </p>
<p>In Wisconsin a few days later I decided to conduct a test of my hypothesis by posing the question to actual small townspeople. The test was completely unscientific; I chose my subjects from a single department of a Target store at 2PM based mostly on who seemed least likely to run away from me. </p>
<p>I asked a woman with a chain of Valentine’s Day lights in her hands, “Have you heard of either the artist Jeff Koons or the actor Joe Mantegna?” </p>
<p>“I can’t place his face but I’ve heard of Joe Mantegna. No idea who Jeff Koons is&#8230;should I have..is this a Target promotion?” </p>
<p>My first thought after she answered the question was that in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, the average person wouldn’t be nearly so happy to interact with an inquisitive stranger or to concede ignorance.</p>
<p>I repeated the inquiry with seven other shoppers, one man and six women. Five yeas for Mantegna and none for Koons. Though I have some reason to believe that at least two of the subjects were confusing the star of “Airheads” and “Searching for Bobby Fisher” with a famous football player, Mantegna clearly took the round.</p>
<p>I left Target with some padded envelopes, a sense of triumph, and still, a tinge of dejection that the father in Joan of Arcadia was infinitely more recognizable than the most prominent living visual artist in the solar system. </p>
<p>Those padded envelopes were for a residency application that I was trying to get out before 5PM. When I got home, I signed my letter, wrote out the addresses on the front with a sharpie, sealed the envelope shut and walked to my father-in-law’s office to steal some stamps. He caught me rummaging through his desk drawers and, after a semi-good natured joke about my freeloading ways, handed me a book of stamps, and I headed to the post box. It was only after I fished the book of stamps from my pocket that I realized that they were Ronald Reagan commemorative stamps staring at me like it was 1983. I came so close to adhering them to the front of the envelope, but in the end, I just couldn’t bring myself to send them to what were most likely progressive liberals with personal vendettas against the Gipper. </p>
<p>I saved the letter for the next day, when I could buy some bells or forevers. On the way back I thought, “how self-conscious have I become that I would choose even my postage stamps with guile?” Then I immediately started resenting the art world for being shallow enough to justify my fears, knowing that a rejection due to the implications of a postage stamp was not far-fetched.</p>
<p>So, the question I’m proposing for the next shop-talk drinking session is whether eight Midwestern Target shoppers, ignorant to the genius of Jeff Koons, would ever think to politicize a postmark? And whether and to what degree I am paranoid. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane McAdams</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunday through Wednesday I maintain an art studio and flop with my in-laws in a pastoral town in Central Wisconsin, and teach art at a small Catholic school nearby. I fly back to Brooklyn, NY each Wednesday night on AirTran flight 511. I’ve become one of those guys who knows flight attendants and bartenders by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday through Wednesday I maintain an art studio and flop with my in-laws in a pastoral town in Central Wisconsin, and teach art at a small Catholic school nearby. I fly back to Brooklyn, NY each Wednesday night on AirTran flight 511. I’ve become one of those guys who knows flight attendants and bartenders by name, and that Milwaukee has a “recombobulation” area to help make what is already a relatively breezy brush with the TSA that much more accommodating.</p>
<p>“You in Milwaukee on business?” the guy in the window seat always asks. It’s a fair question to pose to someone in a pair of semi-professional slacks heading to New York on a weekday evening with a bag full of paperwork. He doesn’t know that the papers are 20 ungraded art history quizzes that he would set the curve on if I gave him five minutes and the textbook. He doesn’t know that my 401(k) is twenty paintings sitting in a storage unit down by the Midtown Tunnel. I think Window-seat inevitably feels misled by these circumstances, expecting we’ll be connected by different nouns, but similar enough verbs to fill up a conversation that will last until the refreshment cart dispenses the Dewar’s. Like, maybe we both have to manage and coordinate, but thrillingly, I might apply those actions to retail distribution and he to digital networks. No such luck. Telling them I’m an artist, part-time professor and freelance art writer catches them off-guard and the conversation grinds down. The nouns <em>and</em> the verbs between us are different; that’s just too much inertia to overcome for the sake of pre-beverage chitchat.</p>
<p>I’m not a martyr for anything as petty as the drape of a pair of jeans, so I conform to the point that the locals in Wisconsin let me around their kids…and maybe just enough to take preemptive action against the Rob Reiner/Carroll O’Connor thing that seems to be brewing between my father-in-law and I. Those travel pants were purchased from the Marc Anthony collection at Kohl’s department store after someone outside a Home Depot took my slightly stained studio jeans for house painting clothes, and the same day my father-in-law (in whose attic I freeload and in whose fridge I store my beer) suggested I borrow some of his clothes before going to a casual restaurant. What I considered fairly unremarkable attire in Bushwick turned out to be downright avant-garde in Wisconsin. Incidentally, an orange hunter’s cap and an unkempt beard meets fashion requirements in both locales for a period of about three weeks during the fall.</p>
<p>On the morning of a recent return to Brooklyn, I slipped into the pile of clothes I left next to the bed, grabbed a coat from the rack by the door and departed for my studio. By the time evening rolled around I made the lazy decision to go straight to art openings without returning home to change. The show was at Allegra LaViola Gallery on the Lower East Side, and featured work riffing on (wouldn’t you know it) the fashion industry, by artist Andrea Mary Marshall. The gallery was packed to suffocating with young, beautiful fashionista-types that emphasized my Steve Carrell-meets-key grip couture. To see the work you had to slither in between the wall and rapt conversationalists&#8230;one of those scenes that mature spectators and those who don’t use cocaine tend to feel uncomfortable in. Halfway through a PBR I sought refuge in an old colleague from the Brooklyn Rail. Holding on to the conversation like a piece of driftwood in an angry ocean, we mused about being older and less effervescent than the surrounding bystanders. Maturity, like misery, loves company. When I convinced her I wasn’t lying about commuting between MKE and LGA, we traded art gossip and teaching stories until most of our beer had been jostled from our cans and onto the floor.</p>
<p>“Have a happy New Year,” she yelled breaking for the exit. “And, hey, don’t freeze your ass off in Minnesota either.”</p>
<p>“Minnesota?!” I thought, shocked. “Badgers, Packers, Brewers, Miss America, Muskies and Leinies!!!” Hometown pride??</p>
<p>Alone again, I tried to circulate. An epaulette on my jacket came undone when I pivoted into the crowd and brushed against a sexy transvestite who was pushing past. She spilled a few drops of beer that landed on my sleeve. I threw a frustrated glance at her, and she shrugged coquettishly before knifing into the crowd.</p>
<p>Off in one direction sprawled Minnesota, Wisconsin and all those dark fields of the Republic. In the other America’s incandescent cultural production center sizzled like a lit fuse. I stood flatfooted in a high-heeled crowd with an epaulette flapping like a Brooklyn flag above trousers the color of sand from Lake Winnebago, caught in-between the two.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; I never interviewed Founding Director Bert Crenca directly about AS220, so what follows is my recollection of a conversation we had, along with a description of the organization&#8217;s structure. This is the final segment of what has been weekly series of interviews and essays about artist run spaces in Providence, each of which I&#8217;ve [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>I never interviewed Founding Director Bert Crenca directly about AS220, so what follows is my recollection of a conversation we had, along with a description of the organization&#8217;s structure. This is the final segment of what has been weekly series of interviews and essays about artist run spaces in Providence, each of which I&#8217;ve posted here on BadatSports. My particular interest in Providence — the purpose of my residency — was to study via conversation the relationship between the city&#8217;s politics, it&#8217;s social/historical geography and the respondent culture of artist community and action. You can access my collection of writing on the subject by going <a href=" http://lanternprojects.com/daily/?p=10559">here</a>. </em></p>
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<p>I visited AS220 for the month of July as an artist-in-residence. During my stay, I lived on the third floor of the Empire Street building (above), the first in a series of three buildings that AS220 owns. With each building positioned less than a five minute walk away from one another, AS220 takes up 100,000 square feet of downtown Providence real estate. Every space represents a project of historic restoration and, with its mixed use status, contains 3 restaurants, 3 bars, a locksmith, a photo lab, a robot lab, a print shop, a youth program (with every opportunity you could imagine from a separate dark room to a recording studio), 4 galleries, a performance space and live/work studios for artists. The operation is massive. It sustains an operating budget of 2.6 million dollars a year, with a staff of 50 employees. To begin to conceive how a non-profit arts organization can maintain such a privileged place in a downtown commercial hub is to begin to understand how AS220 has influenced not just the cultural climate of Providence but also the city’s vision of itself as an artistic center.</p>
<p>AS220 is not simply an art space. It espouses a philosophical agenda as well. Every member of the administrative staff earns the same salary and health insurance; the minute you are hired for an administrative position, you get the same income as Founding Director, Bert Crenca, who’s been at the helm of this ship for the last 25 years. If you live in one of the artist residency studios, you are expected to volunteer up to 5 hours of your time every week. Volunteering offsets your rent while ensuring everyone share in the responsibility of the space. AS220 is also doggedly unjuried and uncensored. It is a platform for work to be exhibited, not a space with a pre-determined aesthetic vision. Anyone can show here. If you are from Rhode Island you sign your name on a list and so long as you are willing to wait (at this stage the wait is three years long), you get to share your work with a public. The mixed-use aspect of the organization’s structure is also part of its larger agenda: Crenca wanted to create an art space in a city that, 25 years ago, had more or less given up on itself.</p>
<p>AS220’s origin story is contextualized by what was then a particularly bleak post-industrial setting. It has made a point to champion ART — both as a vehicle for individual expression <em>and</em> as a means to develop a visible local community (via the shared experience of artistic production) — in order to transform its depressed surroundings into a viable social opportunity for youths and old folks and everyone in between. To accomplish that goal, it was in everyone’s best interest to create a space that facilitated community and discourse, not criticality. It had to promote an open place of nourishment, one that did not base its success on the whims of commercial art markets belonging to less intimate cities far afield. In other words, the focus <em>had </em>to be on a local level if it was ever going to improve local conditions. Of course the culture has a number of success stories: Shephard Fairy, for instance, and the constituents of Fort Thunder represent members of the Providence community who have had a tremendous impact on a national contemporary art dialogue. Yet also, there is a very concentrated local aesthetic, an often messy, sometimes Bacchic and excitedly peculiar scene. From my glancing view this seemed to manifest in costume parties, printed matter, a vested interest in education on all levels and the deep pleasure in idiosyncratic DIY culture, wherein high and low art (if those distinctions still exist) mix around in a big, impossible-to-parse soup of personality.</p>
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<p>One evening in July, I happened to sit at the same table as Bert Crenca outside the AS220 restaurant. He told me he’d had to defend his non-juried agenda over and over again to board members. “They want to know how we ensure quality,” he said. He grinned, obviously confident in his forthcoming punchline. “I told them ‘We don’t know. Nobody knows. But at least we ensure the <em>possibility</em> of quality.’” It is that confidence which is so contagious. He is a warm man and I had the distinct impression that he was used to talking to a wide of range of people. He is totally game for any kind of discourse. He can swear like a sailor, indulging dirty jokes as though to see where they land, and seeks out the different interests or capacities, whether philosophical, practical or biographical, in a conversation. Almost every night he was out, I saw him talk to different people at the space, people eating food or drinking or hanging out. Regardless the subject he was always engaged. No doubt it takes that kind of person to build a project from the ground up: someone affable, flexible and sure with conviction.</p>
<p>Just as he is proud of his artistic practice, Crenca is proud of his working class roots. Somehow the marriage of those personal interests have lead to his path as an arts administrator. The project began in 1985 when Crenca received a terrible review about his own work. As is the case with many DIY spaces, he responded through a positive action. He turned around and wrote a manifesto with peers Martha Dempster and Steven Emma. “We realize that no artist can survive and grow without the support of both his peers and the public regardless of the artist&#8217;s unyielding belief in himself,” they said. “We challenge the pervasive notion that complete, unbridled, uncensored freedom produces mediocrity and that excellence rises out of repression. It does not!,” and then finally,  “Art has been removed from being an integral part of our society and has been relegated to mere processes which had lead to the production of dry, academic, pedantic, superficial, mechanical, and mass produced works of art devoid of all integrity, honesty, and meaning and has stripped art of its physical, psychological, moral, and spiritual impact necessary for the thriving and indeed the very survival of human culture. Art must be allowed to flourish unhampered because art is one of the last areas of culture where man defines his spiritual nature.”</p>
<p>There is much more to the manifesto, but the vigor and vim underlying its message is clear — something still palpable in the various constituents of AS200 today. As an example, I remember meeting two floor mates for the first time in the kitchen. I think I was nervous and feeling like the new kid, I tried to make a joke with more swagger than I possessed at the time. “Oh!&#8221; I said, instead of introducing myself. &#8220;So <em>this</em> is where the cool kids hangout.” Both joking and earnest, one of them replied, “There isn’t anyone of us who is cool here, everyone is just good.” In other words, open acceptance is in the water. And, indeed, everyone living at the space is creative. Many of them teach classes at the youth program one floor below. It&#8217;s a utopic vision: here you can still be a painter. You can inhabit a structured bohemia, one still complimentary to capitalism. It is sustainable. It is user-friendly. I realized upon arrival that had I moved here after college, I would have embarked on an entirely different artistic experience. (Isn&#8217;t it amazing when you discover the possibility of a parallel life?) Instead I moved to Chicago and had to answer questions about my own artistic approach: Why was I painting from photographs? What about my figure painting was different from or contributing to the canon of figure painting? And, even further: Why was I painting at all? Wasn&#8217;t painting dead? How did my own practice recover Painting&#8217;s Drowned and Beautiful Body from the river and bathe its corpse uniquely? (I&#8217;m thinking of Gabriel Garcia Marquez&#8217;s story<em>, <a href="http://www.cardinalhayes.org/ourpages/auto/2006/8/22/1156300239992/The%20Handsomest%20Drowned%20Man%20in%20the%20World%20Text.pdf">The Handsomest Drowned Man In The World</a></em>). Keep in mind, I feel especially grateful for the path I&#8217;ve come down thus far. I wouldn&#8217;t trade it for the world, but gazing into the ecoculture of Providence, I stumbled upon the important realization that my artistic path thus far was not the <em>only</em> path. (It sounds obvious to say, but here : think about your own aesthetic positions and judgements, imagine conceiving another, auxiliary framework through which to engage with the world. Imagine, then, its ensuring consequence, some things difficult in the old regime will occur more easily, just as other things once simple encounter difficulty). Occupying the possibility of these two realities at once is like being a polyglot, to discover the shortcomings in one language while simultaneously appreciating its tremendously varied and peculiar (by contrast) vocabulary that opens up new worlds. For instance, I&#8217;ve heard the Inuit language has a huge index of nouns fitted to depict thousands upon thousands of kinds of snow.</p>
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<p>From its original manifesto, AS220 was born with an $800 check that paid the first months rent of a shared loft apartment. 2nd floor space above the Rocket, a local nightclub on Richmond Street. AS220 eventually took over the third (top) floor, which became studio space). Originally it was an illegal, unheated, living space but because the city needed something and because Bert  possesses a convincing charisma, he was able to solicit the ever infamous mayor &#8220;Buddy&#8221; Cianci’s help. “Cianci understood the potential of art and entertainment so he was open to suggestions.” Which is how Crenca secured AS220’s first space on Empire Street — a 22,000 sq foot property which, at the time was in great disrepair, surrounded by prostitution and drugs to such an extent that most locals avoided Empire Street altogether. Via whole sweat equity, constant fundraising and a countless number of events, AS220 provided a visible, above ground activity. Interestingly enough, a number of the original businesses that leased the space before AS220 bought the building remain. Crenca took them on as tenants and, in some cases, even helped rehab the business so that original tenants (for instance a locksmith, a barber shop and a gay bar) could move back in and carry on with updated working conditions.</p>
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<p>It’s important to remember that projects like this aren’t simply acts of social service, selflessness or charity. They are necessarily self-serving and there is a way in which each member of the AS220 crew is committed to the project because of how it fulfills (and I’m sure sometimes frustrates) their own ideals. Crenca will say he had to “create a place for his own survival,” it just happens that identifying that need applied to a population larger than himself; his survival is contingent on the community he inhabits. As part of that testament, a handful of AS220 members put together a <a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/as220-at-last/as220stinktank_compost/" rel="attachment wp-att-26555">AS220StinkTank_Compost</a>, <em>How to Keep the Arts from Dying of Old Age</em> in 2004, &#8221;You can grow things in a petri dish,&#8221; they write, &#8220;but they need special care, and may not survive on their own. If you want to find something healthy, lively and strong, don’t build a lab to grow it in; grow it in the dirt you make from your compost.&#8221;</p>
<p>There seems to be a correspondence between the aforementioned dirt and a bed of pessimism. Despite the rampant idealism that oozes out of AS220, neither Bert nor anyone I met there is a Pollyanna. The Youth Program I mentioned is born from bleak prospects for young people and the more general difficulty of time&#8217;s advance (how to keep AS220 forever renewed?). Apprehending a flanking darkness — perhaps even a larger sense of mortality — led the organization to establish a program for youth. Each kid enrolled (mostly teenagers from what I could see, they lolled about the stairwells from time to time, sometimes playing guitars, sometimes flirting with one another, sometimes grumpy and morose) makes a portfolio in whatever field they are interested in. They can use it towards job or college or professional applications. But as I said, this program is not charitable. It is essential. A frank realism regularly took hold most of my conversations over the summer and with Crenca in particular, I found we quickly went down rather dark passages — discussing the bleak potential of an abstract future that entertained global warming and economic crises. “Maybe that’s what humanity is actually best at,” he said. “Destroying itself.”</p>
<div id="attachment_26557" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/as220-at-last/01-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-26557"><img class="size-full wp-image-26557" title="01" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/01.jpeg" alt="" width="500" height="400" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mercantile Building, circa 2010</p></div>
<p>“It’s interesting to me that you would sound so resigned to the end of the world, but then at the same time you’re putting all of your effort into this very idealistic organization,” I said.</p>
<p>“You gotta do something,&#8221; he shrugged. &#8220;You might as well.”</p>
<p>“Yes, but you’re not just doing <em>something</em>, you’re specifically invested in the idea of a future because of the Youth Program,” I said. “I’ll be honest, I feel like obviously everything works well here, but I think that program is like the heart of this place. Because the kids aren’t just taking classes, their education here is totally integrated into the whole organization. They are kind of brought up in community that reinforces and values all the stuff they learn, regardless of whether or not it&#8217;s important in any other part of their lives. Here they’re around a host of people already converted to the idea of art and expression.”</p>
<p>“That’s right,&#8221; Bert nodded. &#8220;That’s it, exactly. That’s our insurance policy — the youth program. I mean, I’m getting old. Maybe I don’t know what good art is. I might have lost touch a long time ago, but they’re the ones that can carry this on. And you know it comes from my own background, I was a troubled kid. I had nowhere to go. We particularly want to serve people who don’t have opportunities, and you know we’ve got 150 kids engaged a week. The youth program is our insurance policy.” He cleared his throat. “As long as the base continues to swell, contrary to elitist notions around art.”</p>
<p>“Well I have to imagine too, I mean even just me in my life, I think it’s really hard to get outside of standard ideas of what one needs to feel OK—&#8221;</p>
<p>“Sure, sure. It’s absurd. All that garbage on TV it really just makes you feel lousy. It’s impossible to find places where you just feel good for being who you are. That’s what I’m trying to do here, with these kids, with everyone. You got to build something that’s independent of all that other stuff.”</p>
<p>“But then that’s the thing, that’s like this big irony,&#8221; I shook my head and probably guffed a little. &#8220;I mean it’s like culture is kind of just fucked, and you know that, but then here you are trying to promote culture. To facilitate it.”</p>
<p>“You have to. It’s not fucked here.”</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Universe. It is only 2 more days till we open up in Miami Beach in the mighty Ox-Bow Cabin. &#160; Are you ready? &#160; We will be.. &#160; &#160; Related PostsAhoy Miami&#8230; We&#8217;re here for ye booty?Thoughts from Across the Cultural Divide: #2 (Ronald Reagan)Somewhere In-Between: Thoughts from Across the Cultural DivideEpisode 332: Michael Darling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Universe. It is only 2 more days till we open up in Miami Beach in the mighty Ox-Bow Cabin.</p>
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<p>Are you ready?</p>
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<p>We will be..</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell yes! Internet. You need to know that we will be in Miami at NADA with the Ox-Bow. Now. There are very important points within this&#8230; 1. We are going to be in Miami. 2. We are going to make 48 hours of Bad at Sports in one weekend. 3. We are going to do [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hell yes! Internet. You need to know that we will be in Miami at <a href="http://newartdealers.org/">NADA</a> with the <a href="http://www.ox-bow.org/">Ox-Bow</a>. Now. There are very important points within this&#8230;</p>
<p>1. We are going to be in Miami.</p>
<p>2. We are going to make 48 hours of Bad at Sports in one weekend.</p>
<p>3. We are going to do that by broadcasting &#8220;pirate style&#8221; from a cabin at the middle of NADA.</p>
<p>4. You can listen to everything live via a radio with an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio">FM</a> dial but you will have to stop by the cabin/booth to find our bandwidth or you can check us out on <a href="http://www.ustream.tv/">Ustream</a>.</p>
<p>5. Our Ox-Bow cabin is in fact an entirely separate piece of art by <a href="http://frontierspace.wordpress.com/exhibition-opportunities/alex-gartelmann-and-jonas-sebura-this-is-how-it-feels-january-2011/">Jonas Sebura and Alex Gartelmann</a>.</p>
<p>6. We have a limited amount of kick ass t-shirts which will be available for purchase.</p>
<p>7. YES – THIS MEANS FOR FOUR DAYS YOU CAN LISTEN TO US ALL THE FUCKING TIME. This could change your life.</p>
<p>8. Richard has promised to dress like a pirate.</p>
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		<title>Barbara Kasten Talks With Heidi Norton</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[GUEST POST BY HEIDI NORTON As a photography student of the mid/late 90&#8242;s, Barbara Kasten was of great significance to me. I lost track of her during the first decade of the millennium, as the contemporaries of the Becher&#8217;s school (Gursky, Ruff, Struth) dominated the art market with their dry, representational Deadpan Photography. Now, as an educator 11 years later, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GUEST POST BY HEIDI NORTON</strong></p>
<p>As a photography student of the mid/late 90&#8242;s, Barbara Kasten was of great significance to me. I lost track of her during the first decade of the millennium, as the contemporaries of the Becher&#8217;s school (Gursky, Ruff, Struth) dominated the art market with their dry, representational Deadpan Photography. Now, as an educator 11 years later, I relish in Kasten&#8217;s renaissance. Abstraction is transcendental to me, but above all, I see Kasten as a pioneer of contemporary relevance.</p>
<p>Most people know her as photographer, but Barbara Kasten is an artist. Photography is a material to her, the camera&#8217;s use- very calculated and intentional. She treats it with equal significance to the rest of her materials&#8211;mesh, plexi, screen, mirror, glass, and light. Her influences are vast and span many decades: Irwin&#8217;s light and space movement of the late 60&#8242;s; Judd&#8217;s studies and use of modern industrial material; Post-Minimalism, and its tendencies toward performance; Process art; Site-Specific art; and Abstraction of the 40&#8242;s (Moholy Nagy), 90&#8242;s, and present. She is presently celebrating her first solo show in Chicago at <a href="http://www.tonywightgallery.com/index.php?/exhibitions/barbara-kasten/">Tony Wight gallery, <em>Ineluctable</em></a>, which runs through October 22<sup>nd</sup>.</p>
<div id="attachment_25622" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/bk_installation_8-web/" rel="attachment wp-att-25622"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25622" title="BK_Installation_8-web" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BK_Installation_8-web-600x414.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="414" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Barbara Kasten, Ineluctable at Tony Wight Gallery</p></div>
<p>Barbara and I sit down and talk art&#8211;mostly me picking her mind. But flattered I am, as she is inquisitive about my work as well. See below!</p>
<p><em style="font-weight: bold;">H: Material became important to you very early on in your career. You were trained as a sculpture and a fibers artist. As a fibers</em> <strong><em>instructor, you used fiberglass screen as a teaching tool to model 3d forms. Talk about your transition from fiberglass as a 3-D sculpting tool to its appearance in your first Cyanotype, Untitled 13, 1974. When and how was the camera introduced?</em></strong></p>
<p>My first photographic works were photograms. When I discovered the industrial screen as a way to create 3D weaving maquettes, I also tried creating a 2D illusionistic rendition in the form of a photogram. That was in 1974, and I still use the same material today in the Studio Constructs.  In the process of arranging the photograms. I liked the way that shadows were captured in negative shapes.  I was also making life size arrangements using packing boxes and other geometric forms I built for that purpose.  At that time, Polaroid was a new color photographic medium; so when I was offered some 8&#215;10 Polaroid film, I learned how to use my first camera, an 8&#215;10 view camera.</p>
<div id="attachment_25634" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/untitled_76-6_1976/" rel="attachment wp-att-25634"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25634  " title="Untitled_76-6_1976" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Untitled_76-6_1976-600x429.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="429" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Barbara Kasten, Untitled 6, 1976, Cyanotype photogram</p></div>
<p><strong style="font-style: italic;">H: Speaking of the camera, let&#8217;s talk about the relationship between the image created, the materials (light, plexi, screen), and</strong> <strong style="font-style: italic;">the exhibited object (the print or projection). When we spoke, you talked about the &#8220;several stages of development before the image is</strong> <em><strong>where it should be&#8221;. Please explain this. Can you talk about the integral relationship between the construction/sculpture and how it is mediated through the camera? A minimalist like Robert Morris might have said that there is a &#8220;dematerialization of the object via the process of it being photographed.&#8221; Do you see the camera and photographic print as more, less, or equal in relevance to the process and materials?</strong></em></p>
<div id="attachment_25623" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 489px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/bk_studio_construct_127_2011/" rel="attachment wp-att-25623"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25623" title="BK_Studio_Construct_127_2011" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BK_Studio_Construct_127_2011-479x600.jpg" alt="" width="479" height="600" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Barbara Kasten, Studio Construct 125, 2011, Archival pigment print</p></div>
<p>B: Process has been the core of all of my work- whether it was the sculptural fiber pieces I did in Poland while on a Fulbright, the photograms in the early 70′s or the most recent Studio Constructs and video work.  The shadow- and the light that causes it- has been my conceptual grounding.  I am not interested in the object itself but how it serves as the means of recording light and shadow.  The photograph becomes the object when the light is merged with form and shadow on a 2d surface. It’s really the light that completes the action, whether it is in direct contact with light sensitive material or passing thru the lens of a camera.  The Studio Constructs go through many configurations before I arrive at the final image&#8230;.The &#8216;sculpture&#8217; stays set up in the studio giving me time to live with it and the images I make of it.  I can expose many pieces of film before I&#8217;m happy with it.  Why not digital&#8230;many reasons but the main one is that I like a slower process so I can think about the work as I make it.</p>
<p><em><strong>B: How about you, Heidi? You currently have a show up at <a href="http://www.neiu.edu/~gallery/">Northeastern University, Not to Touch the Earth</a> (Reception this Friday, Oct. 21st,  from 6-9). In some of your work, the photograph seems to be a document of your process and in other work, the plants or objects are integral to the piece by their physical inclusion.  Talk about these different approaches and how you decide when to create a sculptural piece versus a &#8216;recording of the piece&#8217; -if you see it that way.  If not, how do you think about the role of the plants?  Does the photograph play a different role in each of these approaches?  <em><strong>Tell me about the importance of the object in your work.</strong></em></strong></em></p>
<div id="attachment_25631" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 380px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/norton1/" rel="attachment wp-att-25631"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25631 " title="norton1" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/norton1-411x600.jpg" alt="" width="370" height="540" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Heidi Norton, Installation view</p></div>
<p>H: All of this work began from the image <em>Whitescape,</em> 2010, where I painted all the objects, including the plants, white by hand. Several weeks later, I was at my studio and noticed that the Dieffenbachia plant I used had begun to grow out of the paint. The painted leaves died and fell off and new life began to sprout from the center. I was intrigued by this&#8211;a very pleasant surprise&#8211; as painting the plants had left me feeling guilty.  The material of the paint was killing, yet at the same time preserving and stimulating growth. I included that same Dieffenbachia plant in the piece <em>Deconstructed Rebirth</em>- my third still life construction made for the camera. In that piece you see the new sprout and the decayed white leaves hanging from the plant. Almost a year later in <em>My Dieffenbachia Plant with Tarp (Protection),</em> the same plant reappears as a whole new plant. Only through the use of the camera as a recording mechanism is one able to see the inclusion of this narrative. With the camera’s ability to freeze time we can see the plants in varying states through life to disparity to death. <em>Evolution of a Plant</em> is a more literal example of this idea.  I think of the “New Age Still Life” series as sculptural construction. Like yours, these have several stages of development before they become images or objects on the wall. <em>Higherself </em>and <em>Mango</em> are shot in a studio with a plexi-glass shelving unit that was created to compress the space further within the 2D plane.  In the sculptural objects- glass and wax pieces- the plants are pressed to glass or embedded in wax. These materials are also meant to preserve, freeze, and maybe illicit death. The pieces are meant to activate one another; whereas the photographs are fixed- frozen in one state, in the way that Barthes talk about the “Death of an Image”. He sees death implicit in each photograph. He is struck by how the photograph moves you back through time, how you always have the past with you- the photograph as a kind of resurrection. The sculptures will transition in front of your eyes over a span of time based on the nature of the plant. Plants in various states between life and death, wax melting, the color of the plants from green to brown- they are in constant flux.</p>
<div id="attachment_25629" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 480px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/pressedplant/" rel="attachment wp-att-25629"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25629 " title="pressedplant" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pressedplant-470x600.jpg" alt="" width="470" height="600" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Heidi Norton, Explore Every Aspect of the Finite, 2011</p></div>
<p><em><strong>H: In the <a href="http://www.textfield.org/archive/terminus-ante-quem/">Alex Klein essay</a> that accompanied the group show at <a href="http://barbarakasten.net/terminus-ante-quem-at-shane-campbell/">Shane Campbell</a> in 2010, &#8220;Terminus Ante Quem&#8221; she compares your process to that of process and earthworks artist, Robert Smithson. She writes, &#8220;he famously challenged what he saw as the misperception that art objects function as a kind of culmination or terminus as quem of artistic achievement.&#8221; Basically stating that the object supersedes the process, or the process is a building up to the object. People see your works, the final product, a very polished and refined photograph or projection, different than the &#8220;documentation&#8221; of the 70s. How has being grouped into a movement of photographers whose work is notable for its formal beauty and technical execution changed how the work is interpreted?</strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong></strong></em>B: I happen to like beautiful objects, but beauty alone isn&#8217;t enough.  Some investigations of beauty can bring out the underpinnings of a structure or idea or process that doesn&#8217;t possess that same kind of beauty as the surface. However, I think that my process is important to the understanding of the work which ultimately becomes an object…. a beautiful object. The traditional photographic process is different than mine.  I carry on a continual dialogue with the subject, changing each step along the way, much like a painter might do. The process is intense and intimate and can include aspects of performance, documentation and sculpture.</p>
<p><em><strong>H: You mentioned you are reading <a href="http://www.artbook.com/0919616429.html">Donald Judd&#8217;s essay on the &#8220;specificity of objects&#8221;</a> and the discussion of the &#8220;under developed rectangle&#8221;. Please explain it&#8217;s relevance to your work. We talked about using light on reflective surface to break or reconstruct space within your work and that reduction is the abstraction. Talk more about this.</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">B: I was in a show at <a href="http://ballroommarfa.org/archive/event/immaterial/">Ballroom Marfa</a> this year and visiting the <a href="http://www.chinati.org/visit/collection/donaldjudd.php">Chinati Foundation </a>re-sparked my interest in Judd.  Just to witness his immersion into the simple architecture of a small western town and how it became an extension of his vision and art. The barracks, containing row after row of polished, reflective boxes illuminated by the Texas sun, was an incredible experience of landscape and geometry merging through the medium of the sun.  Judd is straightforward and yet incredibly complex.  Its a position that I hope to develop more in my work and thinking.</p>
<p><em><strong>H: Architecture within the constructed space and the architecture of the gallery seem integral to the work and installation. Please discuss the distinction between phenomenological space and imagined space, and how unambiguous, or understandable for that matter, the difference is between the two experiences.</strong></em></p>
<p>B: An example of how I like to incorporate architecture is in the installation of <a href="http://www.tonywightgallery.com/index.php?/exhibitions/barbara-kasten/">‘Ineluctable’</a>.  The three 11&#215;14 silver gelatin prints are positioned so as to include the corner when the viewer looks towards the work.  Upon close observation, one becomes aware that there is a corner in each of the pieces that reinforces and establishes the importance of the architectural element in situ.  The video ‘Corner’ also plays with the identity of generic structural architecture and light projection that alters its dimensionality.</p>
<div id="attachment_25635" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/bk_installation_10-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-25635"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25635 " title="BK_Installation_10" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BK_Installation_102-600x403.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="403" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Barbara Kasten, Installation view, photograms on right</p></div>
<p><em><strong>B: What about the space and environments you create in the gallery’s space? Do you think of your work as environmental installations?  For instance the inclusion of architectural pedestals as in the piece, Michael 2011, shown in Jason Foumberg’s September 2011 <a href="http://www.frieze.com/issue/review/heidi-norton/">Frieze review</a>, or the collaborative piece with Karsten Lund, presenting shelves of books that were focused on plant life in <a href="http://ebersmoore.com/norton2011.html">“Not to See the Sun” </a>exhibit at Ebersmoore last April?</strong></em></p>
<p>H: I am interested in creating an atmosphere or environment in all of my spaces- the gallery, the studio, my apartment. When making work, I like to assume the personality of an avid plant collector, a botanist- my studio is a hybrid of herbarium and art studio.  I speak mantras to my plants. There is dirt, roots, wax, film and photographs everywhere. I am a creator and nurturer of things and sometimes these things have difficulty co-existing in the same space—precious archival pigment prints shot with 4&#215;5 transparency film made on expensive baryta inkjet paper do not mingle well with dirt, wax and resin. But I like this mix- taking something precious like a photographic print or plant and submerging it into hot wax&#8211;pushing the integrity of the material outside of it’s natural limits.  <em>Michael</em>, the piece you mentioned, is maybe a good example of when these two polarities collide—to me, it’s both photographic and sculptural. When I created the display stands for the piece, I intended for them to not look like pedestals that reference high art. I wanted them to assume some anonymous person&#8217;s makeshift constructions. &#8220;After the Fires of a Little Sun&#8221;, the installation of books and mirror, are to reference a mantle and book collection.  Not necessarily my own collection (though all the books are/have been used for personal research and relate in some abstract way to my work), but maybe someone whose interests vary from botany, to color theory, to a 1970s back-to-the-land manual. The project grafts new imagery and typewritten text directly onto the pages of existing books. The artist and writer&#8217;s responses become merged with the research materials, producing an unconventional artist&#8217;s monograph/zine, fueled by the symbiotic combination of three elements: the original texts, the writer&#8217;s typewritten thoughts, and the artist&#8217;s wide-ranging visuals. The effect of leafing through this material (now collected in one volume) is a bit like stumbling upon some anonymous person&#8217;s avid research materials &#8212; perhaps a mad botanist with a flair for detours into the histories of art and counter-culture.</p>
<div id="attachment_25628" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="http://badatsports.com/2011/barbara-kasten-and-heidi-norton/install/" rel="attachment wp-att-25628"><img class="size-medium wp-image-25628" title="install" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/install-600x301.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="301" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Heidi Norton, Installation at Northeastern Illinois University. Through October 28th</p></div>
<p><a href="http://www.tonywightgallery.com/index.php?/exhibitions/barbara-kasten/"><em>Ineluctable </em>is on view until October 22nd at Tony Wight Gallery. </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.neiu.edu/~gallery/index.html"><em>Not to Touch the Earth</em> is on view until October 28th at Northeastern Illinois. </a>Opening Reception, October 2nd, 6-9pm.</p>
<p><em>Heidi Norton received her MFA from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago in 2002. She lives and works in Chicago. Norton has presented solo exhibitions in Chicago and San Francisco. Group exhibitions include How Do I Look at Monique Meloche Gallery, The World as Text at the Center for Book and Paper Arts, Snapshot at Contemporary Art Museum in Baltimore, and the Knitting Factory in New York. Norton was published in My Green City (Gestalten) in 2011 and her spring show at Not to See the Sun, EbersMoore was reviewed in Frieze, September 2011. She currently is collaborating with writer Claudine Ise in a seasonal column for Bad At Sports called Mantras for Plants. Norton is represented by EBERSMOORE gallery in Chicago. She is faculty in the photography department at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago.</em></p>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Picard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is sort of like a preview for two series of interviews and posts I have planned. You may have noticed I haven&#8217;t been posting as many interviews these last couple of weeks; that&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve been conducting them in the back room, just out of your view. It&#8217;s been like a back stage shuffle [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sort of like a preview for two series of interviews and posts I have planned. You may have noticed I haven&#8217;t been posting as many interviews these last couple of weeks; that&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve been conducting them in the back room, just out of your view. It&#8217;s been like a back stage shuffle and I&#8217;m getting more and more excited about launching these projects. I hope to do so starting next week.</p>
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<p>1) The first series of interviews comes out of a month-long residency I went on this last summer. For the month of June I lived at AS220 in Providence, Rhode Island. There I made use of their most amazing print shop facility to make books and conducted interviews with different individuals running projects. From those talks I have three interviews that I&#8217;ll be posting: an interview with Xander Marro and Pippi Zornoza of the ever illustrious artist-run <a href="http://dirtpalace.org/">Dirt Palace</a>, a conversation with former-Providence resident and print maker <a href="http://www.megjturner.com/">Meg Turner</a> about a print shop/collective she&#8217;s opened in New Orleans and a recounted conversation with <a href="http://www.as220.org/front/">AS220</a> founder Umberto Crenca (this last conversation was not recorded and will, no doubt, suffer or shine from the process of memory). I was particularly interested the relationship between a political environment and DIY artistic initiatives. Providence seemed like a particularly interesting place to think about that dynamic given that it espouses vibrant artistic energy in a city historically notorious for its corruption.</p>
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<p>2) The next series I&#8217;m working on is shaping into a longer trajectory in which I wanted to examine this ever illusive &#8220;hybridity&#8221; idea. As an adjective that seems to regularly crop up in conversation, it has started to feel like a buzzword of some kind, and while I love its aura I have some difficulty grasping its meaning. To that end, I&#8217;ve been interviewing different artists who specifically address different aspects of hybridity in their work. From <a href="http://www.othervixen.com/">Tessa Siddle</a>, <a href="http://sebastianalvarez.info/">Sebastian Alvarez</a>, <a href="http://milanmetthey.com/">Milan Mathay</a>, and <a href="http://www.gwennaellynn.com/" target="_blank">Gwenn-Ael Lynn</a> — the project continues to grow. I&#8217;m interested in hybridity because of how it seems to challenge traditional ideas of category, therefore calling to question the structures that gather around categories, whether that structure is a kind of material power, or a linguistic scaffold. What kind of work follows from this investigation? And where do we locate the self? I&#8217;m planning a few non-interview posts on the same topic, including (for instance) a review of Marcus Coates&#8217; new book, <em><a href="http://www.serpentinegallery.org/2011/03/marcus_coates_the_trip_10.html">The Trip</a> </em>and an old friend (the only 500 year old witch I know) has agreed to put together three hybridity spells, which should only be incanted at night.  I&#8217;m pretty excited.</p>
<p>Hopefully you will be too!</p>
<p>Stay tuned till next week</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I met Peter Burr and Christopher Doulgeris for the first time about five or six years ago. &#8220;Hooliganship,&#8221; the name of their performative duo, was on tour with the second issue of a DVD cartoon compilation called Cartune Xprez. They came to do a screening/performance at the old Green Lantern Gallery. Cartune Xprez is Peter [...]]]></description>
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<p>I met Peter Burr and Christopher Doulgeris for the first time about five or six years ago. &#8220;Hooliganship,&#8221; the name of their performative duo, was on tour with the second issue of a DVD cartoon compilation called <em><a href="http://www.cartunexprez.com/dvd.php">Cartune Xprez</a>. </em>They came to do a screening/performance at the old Green Lantern Gallery. <em>Cartune Xprez </em>is Peter Burr&#8217;s curated compilation of independent, short animation—sometimes I think of it as an animated equivalent of an intensely gratifying literary magazine, or portable gallery exhibition. The biannual DVD is an event of imagination that colludes and clashes on the brink of psychedelic experience, precisely because it celebrates the idiosyncratic visions of its participants. As is often the case with non-commercial media, my appreciation for the project serves as both a reminder and a relief, reminding me that the larger behemoth of mainstream culture is not the <em>only</em> world of creative insight. When Hooliganship arrived, we set up couches for audience members while Peter and Christopher inflated neon crystals that glowed in the dark. We couldn&#8217;t plug them all in, because we kept blowing the fuse. We projected the video on the street-side window, so pedestrians outside would have another experience in reverse. Christopher and Peter both wore tight fitting neon yellow sweat suits and when the screening began, they rose—aside from the crystals, the room was otherwise dark—playing instruments (a clarinet and a guitar). Meantime, these very idiosyncratic cartoons by various artists screened in the background. It&#8217;s probably one of my favorite experiences from running a space. The habitat of the cartoon-world had been built out into our literal experience, lending additional form to the 2-d and sometimes crude projected imagery. As I said, that was years ago—at that time they were traveling with their first 2006 video. Since then <em>Cartune Xprez </em>has released two additional DVDs and, having recently seen the 2011 edition, I wanted to ask Peter Burr some questions about how he curates, what he loves about the project and how he situates his practice in relation to the more commercial television outlets we are accustomed to.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Caroline Picard: </em></strong><em>Where does your love for cartoons come from?</em></p>
<p><strong>Peter Burr: </strong>I can&#8217;t entirely say I LOVE cartoons across the board. I love the way an individual&#8217;s spirit is captured when making a motion picture, especially an animated one. It takes such tenacity to produce anything of substance in cartoon form. There&#8217;s this sweet spot for me where the cartoon balances the energy and ideas and images so casually and confidently that takes my cake. A large number of commercial productions and studio jobs lose my interest in the way things get overwrought. I think that&#8217;s where <em>CARTUNE XPREZ</em> emerged for me&#8230;&#8230; as a platform to showcase those sweet spots in one place.</p>
<p><strong><em>CP:</em></strong> <em>It&#8217;s interesting to me that you wouldn&#8217;t boast an unequivocal love for cartoons given that you must dedicate so much time curating work for </em>CX<em>. Can you talk a little bit more about that sweet spot? Is it a sweet spot peculiar to the cartoon genre? And what do you mean by &#8216;overwrought?&#8217; </em></p>
<p><strong>PB: </strong>Perhaps on point, my day-job is making children&#8217;s cartoons which, as I reread my last response (and your follow-up question), probably colors my approach to <em>CARTUNE XPREZ</em>. As with any medium, I believe, our ability to accept creative work with ‘unequivocal love’ is challenged when market forces dictate the decisions behind the practice. This feeds my desire to give life to CX, creating a platform outside the commercial industry that holds a space for ebullient animated spirits. There&#8217;s a bravery behind a lot of the work <em>CX</em> shows that just doesn&#8217;t exist in most main-stream cartoons I come across. I guess that&#8217;s part of that sweet-spot you&#8217;re asking about&#8230;.bravery, independence, risk, failure. It’s work that is not outright trying to appeal to a mass which in turn yields really strange, really personable results.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em><strong>CP: </strong>Do you have a sense of the community of contemporary cartoonists?</em></span></p>
<p><strong>PB: </strong>I can&#8217;t keep up! Sometimes I feel like I could be surfing around the Internet 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and still never have a clear sense of what animation artists are out there. When I was in university back in the 90s I started to explore independent animation for the first time, searching blindly with vague keywords like &#8216;animation + art&#8217; or &#8216;cool + cartoon&#8217; and it ultimately just tired me of the web. Granted, I was learning how to use search engines for the first time and YouTube didn&#8217;t exist, but still; in the course of that year I think I only ever found one artist (mumbleboy) who clicked into my sensibilities. In subsequent years of peeling my eyes for this kind of work I&#8217;ve found that most of the work that gets integrated into <em>CX</em> emerges when I go on tour and just talk to people. It&#8217;s a lot more fun than sitting on my computer trolling the net, but of course it also keeps my vision somewhat limited to the countries/cultures I visit.</p>
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<p><strong><em>CP:</em></strong> <em>What would you say your aesthetic is? (that thing you&#8217;re looking for in independent cartoons) and how does it differ from your commercial work? </em></p>
<p><strong>PB: </strong>That’s a tough question! I can&#8217;t really speak to a single aesthetic, but I can talk about some of the core values that we try to put forth with the project.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;&#8230;the boundary for work that comes into the <em>CX</em> world outlines a quest for independent, mostly single-artist productions. This means that we exclude music videos and other types of work that could be construed as &#8216;selling something.&#8217; Studio productions tend to get left out too, mostly because I find a special magic imbued in single-artist or small collective projects that comes from a tenacious, intuitive, working process. Rarely does work we show seem storyboarded or acutely planned (even though some of it, in fact, is). Takeshi Murata is a great example of this. Take a video like <em>PINK DOT</em>&#8230;&#8230; It comes across as a crazy compression error that coalesces around some striking images from <em>Rambo</em>. Of course, these aren&#8217;t straight accidents, which becomes especially clear if you compare Takeshi&#8217;s work from this period (2005-2008) with other datamosh videos on youtube. The means of representation here feel glued to the topical concerns. I suppose this is the &#8216;aesthetic&#8217; <em>CX</em> gravitates towards.</p>
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<p>Another great example of this can be found in the work of Bruce Bickford, an older gentleman whose work is mostly known from his days as Frank Zappa&#8217;s in-house animator. Like Murata, his work is baffling on both technical and conceptual levels. I&#8217;ve watched some of his pieces hundreds of times and I still read new ideas in them each time I watch. Part of this comes from Bruce&#8217;s utter dedication to his practice. He lives alone in a dreamy complex outside Seattle where his art practice is the focal point of everything including house chores. (There&#8217;s a great doc called <em>MONSTER ROAD </em>that you can watch to see what I&#8217;m talking about). Anyway, it’s this commitment to a practice that I really admire and like to put forth with <em>CX</em>.</p>
<p><strong><em>CP: </em></strong><em>It&#8217;s interesting to hear you talk about the way you research cartoons, the way you follow artists and their various practices. It seems like that must be an integral part to your administration-life with CX. What kind of other duties would you include in that? What does it take to put out one of your compilations?</em></p>
<p><strong>PB: </strong>I think about my &#8216;research&#8217; as a way to put framework between my consumer interests and my desire to produce.  Yesterday this meant watching a couple hours of cartoon network before and after Ben Jones&#8217; <em>PROBLEM SOLVERZ</em> to see what cable TV is nesting around some of the artists <em>CX</em> has affiliated with. Day-to-day, these research duties are a lot more casual (I haven&#8217;t owned a TV in about a decade so it took some work to find a place to watch cable for a few hours). Thanks to the fact that I live in New York City, freestyle conversation with wonderful artists/critics/organizers is quick to come by. Going on tour provides a similar stimulation. One of my favorite research paths in recent times came when I was in Riga, Latvia with our <em>FUTURE TELEVISION</em> tour. I spent a week there after our show, which gave me time to learn about the cartoons my friends there grew up on. I was blown away by the trove of Soviet animation that had been produced in the 80s. For months afterwards I dug through Russian-language video databases, finding some gems like <em><a href="http://youtu.be/6IGzzOTZtmI">Captain Pronin</a></em> and <em><a href="http://youtu.be/PhN9HamfbuY">Pereval</a></em>. This kind of exploratory work is so much fun!</p>
<p>The heavier administrative duties are a bore to talk about&#8230;&#8230; emailing venues, learning new video compression techniques, managing boxes of amaray-cased DVDs, etc. Its like an episode of “The Office” without the employees.</p>
<div id="attachment_23523" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-23523" href="http://badatsports.com/2011/the-dream-outside-an-interview-with-peter-burr-about-cartune-xprez/hooliganship2/"><img class="size-large wp-image-23523" title="hooliganship2" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hooliganship2-600x400.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="400" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Peter Burr of Hooliganship at the Cinémathèque, part of their Cartune Xprez: 2008 AMRCAN Fall Tour. Photo by Michelle Mayne</p></div>
<p><strong><em>CP: </em></strong><em>What is your vision for CX? To me, it kind of seems like it’s fulfilling itself as it is. I mean, I so love and enjoy each of the DVDs you’ve already put out, I’d be psyched if you just did that forever. That said, I can imagine you think about the project differently, or imagine moving in different directions, or presenting the work in different ways. Can you talk about that a bit?</em></p>
<p>I think my fundamental vision for this project has a lot to do with integrating youthful dreams with my adult experiences. This certainly IS fulfilling in itself! Its also really squirrely and challenging. The biennial compilations feel like a good way to bring some permanence to our activities and touring has been a sweet way to stir up the project’s spirit (bringing new energy and voice).  You’re right, though….. in tandem with what we have now I DO envision the project working in different directions. I think about LIQUID TELEVISION, POSTERDISC, RAW MAGAZINE, CHOOSE-YOUR-OWN-ADVENTURE, THE EXPLODING PLASTIC INEVITABLE and still watering the plants at home.</p>
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		<title>Mantras for Plants: Heidi Norton talks with John Opera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudine Isé</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Artist Heidi Norton and I share an abiding interest in all things plants. During several conversations we had while I was profiling her for Art Ltd., we often talked about the relationship between art and gardening. Heidi incorporates living plant matter directly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_22918" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 266px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-22918 " title="30_ebersmooremy-dieffenbachia-plant" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/30_ebersmooremy-dieffenbachia-plant-466x600.jpg" alt="" width="256" height="328" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Heidi Norton. My Dieffenbachia Plant with Tarp (protection), 2011. 30 x 36 inches. Archival pigment print.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_22915" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 275px"><img class="size-full wp-image-22915 " title="JohnOpera-40-130" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-40-130.jpg" alt="" width="265" height="322" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera, Untitled (B-5),  2010. Anthotype (blueberry) 9.25 x 7.5 inches. Unique.</p></div>
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<p>Artist <a href="http://ebersmoore.com/norton2011.html" target="_blank">Heidi Norton</a> and I share an abiding interest in all things plants. During several conversations we had while I was profiling her for <a href="http://www.artltdmag.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&amp;id=1304447584&amp;archive&amp;start_from&amp;ucat=18&amp;page=show" target="_blank">Art Ltd.</a>, we often talked about the relationship between art and gardening. Heidi incorporates living plant matter <a href="http://www.artltdmag.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&amp;id=1304447584&amp;archive&amp;start_from&amp;ucat=18&amp;page=show" target="_blank">directly into her sculptures</a> and has used various types of house plants in her <a href="http://heidi-norton.com/root/test/" target="_blank">New Age Still Life</a> photographs, along with the more recent series of images shown in her show<a href="http://ebersmoore.com/norton2011.html" target="_blank"> Not To See the Sun</a> at ebersmoore last month. Heidi and I have continued to talk about the relationship of art, plants, and gardening, and as the next iteration of what has become an ongoing exchange, we&#8217;ve decided to conduct a  series of interviews with other artists to  further explore those connections. Voila: <em>Mantras  for Plants</em>, a new, irregularly appearing series of posts.</p>
<p>First up, Heidi talks with Chicago photographer <a href="http://johnopera.com/about" target="_blank">John Opera</a> about his practice and his use of the Anthotype printing process. Opera recently exhibited his photographs at <a href="http://andrewrafacz.com/exhibition.php?s_id=46" target="_blank">Andrew Rafacz</a> in Chicago and   <a href="http://www.camstl.org/exhibitions/front-room/john-opera-matt-sheridan-smith/" target="_blank">at the Contemporary Art Museum in St. Louis, MO</a>. He&#8217;ll be exhibiting his work in a group show titled &#8220;To Tell The Truth&#8221; at <a href="http://monyarowegallery.com/index.php" target="_blank">Monya Rowe Gallery</a> in New York from June 17th-July 29, as well as in another group show at <a href="http://www.statlerwaldorfgallery.com/contact.php" target="_blank">Statler Waldorf Gallery</a> in Los Angeles that opens June 17th.</p>
<p><em>Heidi Norton: What is an Anthotype? Can you explain the process? How did you come to find it and how do you feel it fits into your practice?</em></p>
<p>John Opera: The Anthotype is a printing process that was invented by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Herschel" target="_blank">Sir John Herschel</a> around 1832, five years after the first known photograph. It represents a moment right at the beginning of photography as a medium.  The discovery of the process was very much a part of the initial experiments that led up to photography, as it was eventually known in the 19<sup>th</sup> century, both in technical terms and in metaphoric terms as well.</p>
<p>In addition to his photographic research, Herschel was also an accomplished botanist and researched the chemical properties of light.  His experiments often crossed disciplines.  That’s how the Anthotype came about—it was an attempt to connect fixing a photographic image to photosynthesis.  Herschel discovered that he could make a rudimentary print emulsion using pigments extracted from plant material.  He made his prints by treating paper with the plant-based emulsion and pressing a negative tightly against the paper under a sheet of glass.  The prints are then exposed during the height of summer when the sun is very intense.  The printing process can require anywhere from a week to three weeks in direct sunlight.</p>
<p>For my Anthotypes, I used beets, blueberries, pokeberries, chokeberries and several varieties of lilies.  It’s pre-photography. I was really interested in that notion. There is a strange connectivity that the process has to the natural world.  It feels alchemical to me.  I collected some of the plants at sites where I made landscape photos in the past, specifically the pokeberries, so I guess you could say that some of the images have a connection to my past work, or at least they are part of a continuum.</p>
<div id="attachment_23038" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 370px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23038" title="JohnOpera-2-99" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-2-99.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="477" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera. Meadow, 2006-2008. Archival inkjet print. 42 x 32 inches. Edition of 5.</p></div>
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<p>The images in the prints are of drawings that I made in a glass bottom tray device that I designed which allows me to expose directly onto large format film without a camera.  There was no lens used in making the images.  They are essentially contact prints of ink in water.  For me, the prints point toward the fundamental principles of image formation in photography.  They are also still-images about liquid and its connection to the medium.</p>
<div id="attachment_23022" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 371px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23022 " title="JohnOpera-41-123" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-41-123.jpg" alt="" width="361" height="446" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera. Untitled (C-3), 2010. Anthotype (pokeberry). 9.25 x 7.5 inches. Unique.</p></div>
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<p><em>HN: One of things that fascinate me is the relevance of light in this work. All photography is reliant on light, but the way light is utilized in these pieces is extreme. The &#8220;ink drawings&#8221; must be created in complete darkness. I imagine you sitting in a dark closet, dropping ink into a tray of liquid, flashing light to expose the latent image. The second process is actually making the contact print. Like you mentioned, at times the exposures can be up to three weeks in direct sun. Can you comment on this duality?</em></p>
<p>JO: Honestly, I’ve never consciously thought about that connection, but it is a really interesting one for sure.  A duality in the process like that is probably a good thing.  The pictures are about a balance in a lot of respects I guess—formally, conceptually.  The negatives are made in a traditional darkroom setting, while the printing process takes place under very different circumstances.  It can take up to 120 hours in direct sunlight to break the emulsion down enough to make a photograph. The image of the drawing is captured on film in less than a second.  I see what you mean by “extremes.”</p>
<p>During the printing process, I have to pay attention to the weather and monitor the prints daily. They can only be made during the summer months when the sun is a its highest point in the sky.  I suppose there is an interesting parallel between how the prints come into the world and witnessing plants in a garden do the same.  I’m reminded of Jeff Wall’s image <em><a href="http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/jeff_wall/images/288x250/G26506.jpg" target="_blank">Poppies in a Garden</a>, </em>which is in the Art Institute’s collection.  For me, that image is about the potential universe contained within the poppy.  It’s also an image that draws connection to the latency you are talking about in photography.  There is a delay between the time a photograph is made and when you see the negative or print. This is what happens to the gardener in the garden as well.  I suppose my Anthotypes are somewhere around there in that they are about something provisional.  I like to think that their point is also that they break from the observed world, like a hallucination.</p>
<div id="attachment_23050" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 370px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23050" title="JohnOpera-45-127" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-45-127.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="442" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera. Untitled, (G-4), 2010. Anthotype (beet). 9.25 x 7.5 inches. Unique.</p></div>
<p><em>HN: Speaking of &#8220;hallucination.&#8221;  This break from the &#8220;observed&#8221; world, we can call a &#8220;secondary&#8221; experience or even a transcendence from the lived experience. Maholy Nagy uses of abstraction of light coupled with technology, exemplifies the idealistic and utopian thinking of a specific era. He coined the term “the New Vision” for his belief that photography could create a whole new way of seeing the outside world that the human eye could not. Is this a relevant conversation today?</em></p>
<p>JO: I think that every image is a secondary experience to an extent.  I feel like photography has reached such a point of self-consciousness that we can agree that any kind of photograph, whether it’s a documentary image or a photogram, occupies a secondary, or abstract position.</p>
<p>At the same time though, I think what you’re getting at is a transcendence of observed experience.  There is only so much that a lens-based image can describe, right?  I guess that it’s the reason I have periodically revisited abstraction over the past 5 years or so.  Despite their straightforward manner, I have always thought of my landscape pictures as being about a topography of interiority.  I couldn’t quite get there though.  I think I have always used abstraction to express what I couldn’t do with a straight photograph.</p>
<div id="attachment_23044" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 371px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23044" title="JohnOpera-9-74" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-9-74.jpg" alt="" width="361" height="279" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera. Baraboo, 2007. Archival inkjet print. 42 x 53 inches. Edition of 5.</p></div>
<p><em>HN: The colors and images of the anthotypes have a &#8220;West Coast&#8221;/LA appeal to me. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I know they were made in the summer and we hung out a lot during the time of their creation so in some ways they resonant a certain level of nostalgia. But there is a history of west coast makers that use &#8220;west coast&#8221; light to influence their practices and works. I definitely make different types of work in the summer&#8211;perhaps due to the changes in color palette, a different energy, geographic location, longer days&#8230; Besides the fact that the sun is the strongest in the summer, I want to know: Does the sun and warmth solicit certain types of making practices or &#8220;types&#8221; of art for you? Is there such thing as summer art? If these were made in the winter, would they look aesthetically different?</em></p>
<p>JO: I’m not sure if there is such a thing as “summer art.&#8221; I thought about the Anthotypes all winter long!  Although, making the work has definitely made me more aware of the changing of the seasons and of the Sun’s position and path across the sky.  I feel like the process of producing the Anthotypes has really been a process of aligning myself with the seasonal cycle, probably a lot like a gardener or farmer would have to do.</p>
<div id="attachment_23046" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 370px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23046" title="JohnOpera-42-133" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JohnOpera-42-133.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="441" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Opera. Untitled (D-2), 2010. Anthotype (beet). 9.25 x 7.5 inches. Unique.</p></div>
<p><em>HN: So I will ask you the <a href="http://thephotographypost.com/blogs/post/kate/heidi-norton-vs-barbara-kasten-1176/" target="_blank">same question</a> I asked <a href="http://barbarakasten.net/" target="_blank">Barbara Kasten</a> because it is relevant with your work (and I&#8217;d like to compare your answers). I feel we are experiencing a similar scientific/technological revolution in relation to how we capture and perceive light and color. How do you feel digital manipulation has changed the production, consumption and criticism of abstract photography? Do you feel that the abstractions inherent in the medium, particularly evident in your work, are enhanced or obscured by the further abstraction embodied in the act of digital capture/rendering and/or manipulation? Do you feel it’s important to explain this to people or ensure they know the works are not &#8220;manipulated&#8221;?</em></p>
<p>JO: Things are definitely changing, but I won’t say if it’s good or bad.  For me it’s just happening.  Digital is definitely erasing certain glitches and characteristics of analog photography, but it’s also creating its own set of peculiarities too.  Digital is actually very close to surpassing film in most respects.  What will eventually remain is the nostalgia for certain arbitrary properties—film grain, solarization, fogging, etc.</p>
<p>Actually, it’s not really important to me that people know how the images were fixed to the prints, although that is usually the first question people ask me.  <em>So how are these made?</em> I could have captured the images on a digital device—actually that would have been a lot easier.  There would have been fewer steps.  The important thing is that they recorded fleeting compositions—whether that was achieved digitally or traditionally is not important. The fact is that I had to scan the film in order to produce larger printing negatives, so there actually was a digital step to this process.  See, now we’re getting too hung up on process.</p>
<p>I’m not sure how abstraction is affected by the digital shift.  Abstraction in photography is like abstraction in painting—its meaning shifts according to context—always.  The way I use abstraction is different than how it functions in Barbara’s work and vice versa.</p>
<div id="attachment_23040" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 370px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23040" title="AndrewRafaczGallery000439" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/AndrewRafaczGallery000439.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="241" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Installation view of John Opera&#39;s Anthotypes at Andrew Rafacz Gallery.</p></div>
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<p><em>Heidi Norton received her MFA from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago in 2002. Her work has been exhibited all over Chicago in venues such as Monique Meloche Gallery, Dominican University, Northern Illinois University Gallery, and Andrew Rafacz Gallery. Nationally and internationally, Norton&#8217;s has been exhibited at the Contemporary Art Museum in Baltimore, the Knitting Factory in New York, as well as in Los Angeles, London, and Valenica, Spain. Norton was published in My Green City by Gestalten in 2011. This past year she had solo shows in San Francisco at Hungry Man Gallery and ebersmoore in Chicago. Her work will be included in the group show </em><a href="http://www2.colum.edu/dev/interartscbpa/events/exhibitions/exhibitions-pages/the-world-as-text--visual-extensions.php" target="_blank">The World as Text</a><em> at Columbia College Chicago, opening June 16th.<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Claudine Isé</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Jeff Koons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[jeff koons must die]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I am not quite as much of a Jeff Koons hater as some other folks at Bad at Sports, I did find this particular example of videogame art to be tremendously amusing. It&#8217;s kind of along the lines of Paul Steen&#8217;s Art Assault, but sadly Hunter Jonakin&#8217;s Jeff Koons Must Die!!! isn&#8217;t downloadable. That&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_21884" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 486px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-21884" title="VideoGame4WEB" src="http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/VideoGame4WEB-600x399.jpg" alt="" width="476" height="316" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jeff Koons Must Die!!! by Hunter Jonakin</p></div>
<p>Although I am not quite as much of a Jeff Koons hater as some other folks at Bad at Sports, I did find this particular example of videogame art to be tremendously amusing. It&#8217;s kind of along the lines of Paul Steen&#8217;s <a href="http://www.paulsteen.se/aa.html">Art Assault</a>, but sadly Hunter Jonakin&#8217;s <a href="http://hunterjonakin.com/koons.php" target="_blank">Jeff Koons Must Die!!!</a> isn&#8217;t downloadable. That&#8217;s probably a good thing, or else I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;d be playing it all day as opposed to finding pearls like this throw your way. (And to give credit where credit is due, this particular pearl was thrown to me by Richard Holland). The game takes the form of an old-school arcade cabinet complete with joystick controls and &#8220;fire&#8221; and &#8220;jump&#8221; buttons. Below, some video footage of the game in action:</p>
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<p>Jonakin describes the work on his website thusly:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jeff Koons is one of the most polarizing and well known contemporary artists living today. He attempts to  	elevate the banal by constructing large metal sculptures that resemble balloon animals, oil paintings that contain  	subject matter derived from digital collage, and large-scale pornographic photographs featuring the artist and his  	former wife, to name a few. All of Koons’s art is constructed by assistants. In general, viewers love or hate Koons  	and his work, and that is why he was chosen as the subject matter for this piece.</p>
<p>The game is set in a large museum during a Jeff Koons retrospective. The viewer is given a rocket launcher  	and the choice to destroy any of the work displayed in the gallery. If nothing is destroyed the player is allowed  	to look around for a couple of minutes and then the game ends. However, if one or more pieces are destroyed, an  	animated model of Jeff Koons walks out and chastises the viewer for annihilating his art. He then sends guards to  	kill the player. If the player survives this round then he or she is afforded the ability to enter a room where waves 	 of curators, lawyers, assistants, and guards spawn until the player is dead. In the end, the game is unwinnable,  	and acts as a comment on the fine art studio system, museum culture, art and commerce, hierarchical power structures,  	and the destructive tendencies of gallery goers, to name a few.</p></blockquote>
<p>Two things I love about this project: 1) it costs a quarter to play the game, which in regards to Koons somehow seems appropos, and 2) the hordes of lawyers, curators, etc. confronting you on the final Boss level, making the game impossible to win. Good times.</p>
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