Happy Spring/ Purim/ Equinox! On this weeks vernal episode, Dana, Brian and co-guest, Jesse Malmed, are joined in the studio by Jacob Ciocci of Paper Rad and DePaul’s School of Cinematic Arts, where he teaches animation. We discuss Ciocci’s latest work for his upcoming screening, un-confusingly titled “April fools! Pain is just a Program made by your Mind: the video Program. New Videos made by your Mind by Jacob Ciocci,” taking place April 1st at the The Nightingale Cinema. Ciocci also walks our hosts through the process for creating his award winning “Cloudy Boyz” beer label, and treats them to some very historic Paper Rad history.