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	<title>Comments on: Re: Should Bad At Sports Twitter Art Reviews?</title>
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		<title>By: Claudine</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2009/re-should-bad-at-sports-twitter-art-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-83384</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark, thank you! Regarding Twitter, interestingly enough there were a couple of blog posts and essays written over the weekend that expand this discussion even further. First, Ben Davis&#039; blog post on Artnet magazine, The Twitter Aesthetic (http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/reviews/davis/davis3-13-09.asp) Sorry I don&#039;t know how to do links in comments yet! But it&#039;s a lengthy discussion of what Twitter is good at, especially in covering art fairs. And then today Edward Winkleman referenced Davis&#039; blog essay in his, Winkleman&#039;s own blog and added further commentary on the issue (http://edwardwinkleman.blogspot.com/2009/03/he-out-bopped-buzzard-and-oriole.html). I think I might post about these two things today as they help flesh out different angles of the Twitting issue.

RE: art criticism vs. art writing. Yeah,  &#039;art writing&#039; does sound clunky &amp; lame doesn&#039;t it. Maybe my discomfort w/the term comes from my own personal issues with not knowing how to describe/situate/think about the writing that I&#039;m doing now. Especially as it pertains to this blog/website. Eh, I suppose it doesn&#039;t much matter what it&#039;s called, the focus should be on how to do it well, how to make art criticism relevant and appropriate to this format without reducing it all to a snapshot. I&#039;m going to go check out John Haber&#039;s blog now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark, thank you! Regarding Twitter, interestingly enough there were a couple of blog posts and essays written over the weekend that expand this discussion even further. First, Ben Davis&#8217; blog post on Artnet magazine, The Twitter Aesthetic (<a href="http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/reviews/davis/davis3-13-09.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/reviews/davis/davis3-13-09.asp</a>) Sorry I don&#8217;t know how to do links in comments yet! But it&#8217;s a lengthy discussion of what Twitter is good at, especially in covering art fairs. And then today Edward Winkleman referenced Davis&#8217; blog essay in his, Winkleman&#8217;s own blog and added further commentary on the issue (<a href="http://edwardwinkleman.blogspot.com/2009/03/he-out-bopped-buzzard-and-oriole.html" rel="nofollow">http://edwardwinkleman.blogspot.com/2009/03/he-out-bopped-buzzard-and-oriole.html</a>). I think I might post about these two things today as they help flesh out different angles of the Twitting issue.</p>
<p>RE: art criticism vs. art writing. Yeah,  &#8216;art writing&#8217; does sound clunky &#038; lame doesn&#8217;t it. Maybe my discomfort w/the term comes from my own personal issues with not knowing how to describe/situate/think about the writing that I&#8217;m doing now. Especially as it pertains to this blog/website. Eh, I suppose it doesn&#8217;t much matter what it&#8217;s called, the focus should be on how to do it well, how to make art criticism relevant and appropriate to this format without reducing it all to a snapshot. I&#8217;m going to go check out John Haber&#8217;s blog now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Claudine. I agree with most of your assertions, but I would like to disagree with two.

I think the web can and is being used well as a location for good, long form criticism. There are several locations where the discussion is better than most glossies. See, e.g., John Haber&#039;s site, among others. I think this can exist along with shorter blog stuff, --- the longer pieces should be encouraged, not discouraged.

Twitter seems to me a possibility, but it is often, in use, a complete kowtowing to soundbite culture, and we have seen enough of the effects of that over the last decade and more.

Second, I am against the term &#039;art writing.&#039; It sounds weird, as if it means &quot;art that is writing&quot; not &quot;writing about art.&quot; Yet, of course, &#039;art writing&#039; is modeled on &#039;art criticism.&#039; 

Also, &#039;criticism&#039; really means analysis and discussion, not only negative comments, although in ordinary &quot;street&quot; language it means simply the latter. So maybe you are right that a new word is needed--- &quot;art writing&quot; sounds all wishy-washy to me too --- as if it could be just any old pile of words about art, like the descriptive everything-is-okay crap one reads so often in the German-speaking world. &quot;Analytic art writing&quot;? I can&#039;t really think of a better term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Claudine. I agree with most of your assertions, but I would like to disagree with two.</p>
<p>I think the web can and is being used well as a location for good, long form criticism. There are several locations where the discussion is better than most glossies. See, e.g., John Haber&#8217;s site, among others. I think this can exist along with shorter blog stuff, &#8212; the longer pieces should be encouraged, not discouraged.</p>
<p>Twitter seems to me a possibility, but it is often, in use, a complete kowtowing to soundbite culture, and we have seen enough of the effects of that over the last decade and more.</p>
<p>Second, I am against the term &#8216;art writing.&#8217; It sounds weird, as if it means &#8220;art that is writing&#8221; not &#8220;writing about art.&#8221; Yet, of course, &#8216;art writing&#8217; is modeled on &#8216;art criticism.&#8217; </p>
<p>Also, &#8216;criticism&#8217; really means analysis and discussion, not only negative comments, although in ordinary &#8220;street&#8221; language it means simply the latter. So maybe you are right that a new word is needed&#8212; &#8220;art writing&#8221; sounds all wishy-washy to me too &#8212; as if it could be just any old pile of words about art, like the descriptive everything-is-okay crap one reads so often in the German-speaking world. &#8220;Analytic art writing&#8221;? I can&#8217;t really think of a better term.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmitry, so of course I had to hunt you down on Twitter after reading your comment. You are doing some interesting stuff with it, it feels more like snippets of poetry, street poetry or something. I&#039;ll keep reading....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmitry, so of course I had to hunt you down on Twitter after reading your comment. You are doing some interesting stuff with it, it feels more like snippets of poetry, street poetry or something. I&#8217;ll keep reading&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry Samarov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitry Samarov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only 140 characters and it poses quite a challenge, but an interesting one: to pare down an experience to a very short phrase...I&#039;ve been fooling with it the last month or so and have found it worthwhile in a very circumscribed sort of way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only 140 characters and it poses quite a challenge, but an interesting one: to pare down an experience to a very short phrase&#8230;I&#8217;ve been fooling with it the last month or so and have found it worthwhile in a very circumscribed sort of way&#8230;</p>
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