Comments on: Episode 201: Deb Sokolow

By: A New Twist on Deb Sokolow’s “The Way in Which Things Operate” : Bad at Sports

Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:46:16 +0000

[...] was interviewed on Episode 201 of the Podcast. Give it a listen if you haven’t already! (Via Windy [...]

By: Balzac

Balzac — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:37:38 +0000

Amy,

The funny thing is that while it may not have appeared before, it is one of the first few results now, due to the preceding comment.

By: Amy

Amy — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:07:38 +0000

Weird, Deb, when I google Amando Carrillo Fuentes your page doesn’t come up at all (well, at least in the first 6 pages). Same goes if you search +art or +chicago. So I’m going to have to agree with you that it’s odd you’re getting hits from those places.

And, narratives are fun.

By: Steve Kush Ruiz

Steve Kush Ruiz — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:13:31 +0000

Show was great, but this comment thread rules.

By: edmar

edmar — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:55:31 +0000

Don’t allow these details to frustrate you. As you know nothing is ever perfect due to deadlines. The great thing is that you can always fix the errors and edit them here, on the interweb, as they are discovered.

An important fact to emphasize is that this interview with Deb is great. Thank you guys. Keep up the wonderful and valuable work Team BAS.

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:53:21 +0000

All,

Okay, so for now and to prevent further confusion, etc. we will strike the offending text and if Deb wants to send us something I’ll replace it and hopefully this resolves the concerns.

Richard

By: John Q. Public

John Q. Public — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:33:15 +0000

Just because the galleries have closed it isn’t appropriate to list them as places her work has been shown? Your scolding contains some odd logic.

By: Holly Wilson

Holly Wilson — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:01:19 +0000

Hi,
I stumbled across this commentary recently, and as a collector of Deb Sokolow’s work, I am glad to see that you cleared up the misunderstanding, because the implication of the initial comment was that she did not furnish information that was requested in a timely manner.
It may be worth taking the time to find current information on the artist to avoid doing them (and yourselves, honestly) a disservice. A couple of teh galleries you mentioned have closed and there is no mention of a current show. Speaking as a collector, I would appreciate having current information, particularly aboutan exhibit that is up when the podcast is released.
If it would not be too arduous, perhaps you would be able to correct the entry since Ms. Sokolow has offered to send you current information.
I appreciate what you do and understand that this is a volunteer effort, but your credibility as a journalistic presence can be more secure when you include more relevant and accurate information along with the always interesting interviews.
Thank you.

By: Deb Sokolow

Deb Sokolow — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:55:59 +0000

Thanks Richard. Our friendship is staying intact here, no worries!

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:33:39 +0000

Deb,

No accusations were meant to be implied in your general direction. The statement posted was an error on our part, not yours.

By: Deb Sokolow

Deb Sokolow — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:31:54 +0000

Hi Mark- Thank you for clarifying and for checking out the interview! All best, D

By: Mark Staff Brandl

Mark Staff Brandl — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:01:32 +0000

Sorry Deb — I didn’t mean YOU and that is the implication, I now see! I was bitching in general. We at BaS have in essence ceased to ask artists for the stuff due to PAST experiences, not you! I found this interview great! I wasn’t cognizant of your work and was happy to be turned on to it; I then googled and enjoyed your work very much.

By: Deb Sokolow

Deb Sokolow — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:34 +0000

Hi all, Had a great time talking with my friends, Duncan and Richard for this interview. I think you guys did a great job editing it, I love the Rocky intro, and I hope I didn’t drone on too much.

I feel like I need to chime in here, though. After reading the comments above, it seems like I’m being accused of not supplying a bio and/or being a lazy artist. I agree with Mark Staff Brandl in that artists should always have a bio available. I actually do have one, but wasn’t asked by BAS to supply it. BAS did ask me to supply an image, which I was happy to send the day after the interview. Yes, artists can be lazy, but please don’t accuse me of being lazy. If you’d like me to send you a current bio, I’d be happy to. Many thanks, Deb

By: HoertAuf

HoertAuf — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:34:17 +0000

>>It happens, but rarely, that an active adventurer [drug lord], exploited by a passive adventurer [artist], comes back from a long adventurous career, to beat up his inspirer.

This is a very displeasing occurrence, but let’s repeat it, a very rare one. The active adventurer is not capable to judge his own case with such severity.<<

from: Pierre Mac Orlan, Petit manuel du parfait aventurier (1920)
http://www.archive.org/details/petitmanueldupar00macouoft

By: Bad at Sports

Bad at Sports — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:02:47 +0000

Jerks.

By: Mark Staff Brandl

Mark Staff Brandl — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:17:05 +0000

Hi Jay, “…you could always just ask the artist to…” no kidding. I used to think that would work — since I myself as an artist do supply such stuff all the time. It NEVER does. Everytime get a promise oof blurb, image etc., it never comes or is so late it is useless.

Screw the “artist statements” shit — it should be required of all artists — and taught in school — that they have an “official” bio blurb which they keep updated — and a photo or two. Just like real professionals. Just like authors, etc. Dmn lazy artists!

By: Bad at Sports

Bad at Sports — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:15:03 +0000

And to that note, we aren’t much better internally, people from the bureaus who produce pieces are in theory supposed to send a blurb, a picture, and, ideally, a list of name drops, and that rarely comes off as intended. Everyone has a job or three, and obligations, the show is fairly low on the list as it is an hobby level venture and operates at a significant loss, so some times the operation is seat-of-ones-pants. Most of the time actually.

By: Bad at Sports

Bad at Sports — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:12:34 +0000

We do ask for that sort of thing and a picture generally and it rarely happens. Our production schedule is alarmingly short, so most artists, particularly those who teach, need more than a day or two to get something together. Therefore, a quick googling is done an viola, cut and paste, steal a pic, and you have a show note. We spend so much time recording, producing and mixing the shows that these little things are what gets sloppy.

By: Jay Cutler

Jay Cutler — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:47:58 +0000

you could always just ask the artist to email you a bio, then you don’t have to do any research!

By: Bad at Sports

Bad at Sports — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:22:57 +0000

Jay,

Feel free to contact us at badatsports@gmail.com about scheduling your volunteer time to do things like blurb writing and research!

Welcome aboard!

BAS

By: Jay Cutler

Jay Cutler — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:50:32 +0000

Geez, where did you “shamelessly lift” that blurb from? I just went on her website and checked out her CV. In the past 2 years she has had solo shows at the Kemper Museum of Art in Kansas City, INOVA in Milwaukee and currently has a solo show up at the Spertus Museum in Chicago. Group shows at the Van Abbemuseum in The Netherlands, the Smart Museum in Chicago, and the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago. And her drawings don’t sound “whimsical” at all: drug lords, terrorists, meth labs, Ollie North, serial killers. Sounds dark to me.