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	<title>Comments on: Episode 93: Gaylen Gerber/Michelle Grabner</title>
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	<description>Contemporay art talk without the ego</description>
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		<title>By: Episode 216: WhiteWalls &#38; The Return of the Book Review : Bad at Sports</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-86877</link>
		<dc:creator>Episode 216: WhiteWalls &#38; The Return of the Book Review : Bad at Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Susan Snodgrass Mary Patten National Endowment for the Arts Adelheid Mers Artforum Glenn Ligon Gaylen Gerber Joseph Grigely University of Chicago Press Susan Bielstein Quimby&#8217;s Centre Pompidou Printed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Susan Snodgrass Mary Patten National Endowment for the Arts Adelheid Mers Artforum Glenn Ligon Gaylen Gerber Joseph Grigely University of Chicago Press Susan Bielstein Quimby&#8217;s Centre Pompidou Printed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Episode 182: Jim Lutes : Bad at Sports</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-83198</link>
		<dc:creator>Episode 182: Jim Lutes : Bad at Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Salle Jerry Saltz Illinois State University Jim Yood Barbara Rossi Jim Nutt Judy Ledgerwood Gaylen Gerber egg tempera paint MCA Lester Young Valerie Carberry Gallery Richard Carr Hancock [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Salle Jerry Saltz Illinois State University Jim Yood Barbara Rossi Jim Nutt Judy Ledgerwood Gaylen Gerber egg tempera paint MCA Lester Young Valerie Carberry Gallery Richard Carr Hancock [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68614</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerber is a political animal.....not afraid to kiss a &#039;collector&#039; the likes of Howard Stone&#039;s behind, in the hopes of currying position and favor.....he has in the words of one prominent curator, &#039;one high school level idea&#039;- that he has parlayed into a half ass/kiss ass career. John Henderson probably just dumped a good sum of $$$ &#039;studying&#039; with this con job/fraud and simply hasn&#039;t come to terms with the fact that he&#039;s been had - 

Sorry John this kind of generic, academic junk, has had its day - its over. This, is an attitude being widely accepted and discussed in an art world weary of the Gerber like mediocrities whose only real goal is careerist power and position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerber is a political animal&#8230;..not afraid to kiss a &#8216;collector&#8217; the likes of Howard Stone&#8217;s behind, in the hopes of currying position and favor&#8230;..he has in the words of one prominent curator, &#8216;one high school level idea&#8217;- that he has parlayed into a half ass/kiss ass career. John Henderson probably just dumped a good sum of $$$ &#8216;studying&#8217; with this con job/fraud and simply hasn&#8217;t come to terms with the fact that he&#8217;s been had &#8211; </p>
<p>Sorry John this kind of generic, academic junk, has had its day &#8211; its over. This, is an attitude being widely accepted and discussed in an art world weary of the Gerber like mediocrities whose only real goal is careerist power and position.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68599</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm --- And you might want to LOOK a bit and &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; think, rather than spout what you&#039;ve been told. He&#039;s a derivative, by-the-book, do-as-you&#039;re-told, tee-hee-hee-neo-dada, consensus bore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm &#8212; And you might want to LOOK a bit and <i>really</i> think, rather than spout what you&#8217;ve been told. He&#8217;s a derivative, by-the-book, do-as-you&#8217;re-told, tee-hee-hee-neo-dada, consensus bore.</p>
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		<title>By: John Henderson</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68504</link>
		<dc:creator>John Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...you might want to think a bit. Gaylen&#039;s a fucking good artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;you might want to think a bit. Gaylen&#8217;s a fucking good artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must add, that indeed --- Vero mundi lumen fido, Jesum Christum. You, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must add, that indeed &#8212; Vero mundi lumen fido, Jesum Christum. You, probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on --- it was not at all hidden. As I said, &quot;Silly French --- silly Latin.&quot; It was a joke --- and GG is indeed a maker of grey bullshit. There I said it in English for you. I hope you can read it. Es tut mir Leid, dass du dich von anderen Sprachen bedroht fühlst. Konsensens-Arschloch. Also, maybe you should read the meaning of your stolen Latin, before you cut and paste out of Christian sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on &#8212; it was not at all hidden. As I said, &#8220;Silly French &#8212; silly Latin.&#8221; It was a joke &#8212; and GG is indeed a maker of grey bullshit. There I said it in English for you. I hope you can read it. Es tut mir Leid, dass du dich von anderen Sprachen bedroht fühlst. Konsensens-Arschloch. Also, maybe you should read the meaning of your stolen Latin, before you cut and paste out of Christian sources.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42198</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! I think L means he or she thought only consensoriat people could speak latin....

well Mark, I guess you are just not cool.....as for &#039;L&#039; I guess we now know it is possible to argue with perfection- as exemplified by your dead-on assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! I think L means he or she thought only consensoriat people could speak latin&#8230;.</p>
<p>well Mark, I guess you are just not cool&#8230;..as for &#8216;L&#8217; I guess we now know it is possible to argue with perfection- as exemplified by your dead-on assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-41971</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! before i read this blog i thought only cool people could speak latin...
latin should be used to say poignant, it doesnt have to be profound but at least it should be poignant and contextual...
not a callout saying someone is talking bull and you just dont wanna own up to it

fides mundi lumen asshole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! before i read this blog i thought only cool people could speak latin&#8230;<br />
latin should be used to say poignant, it doesnt have to be profound but at least it should be poignant and contextual&#8230;<br />
not a callout saying someone is talking bull and you just dont wanna own up to it</p>
<p>fides mundi lumen asshole!</p>
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		<title>By: brad "not duncan" farwell</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-40744</link>
		<dc:creator>brad "not duncan" farwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(cough!)  nerds!  (cough!)

I enjoyed hearing about the work, but he seemed like a fairly grumpy/reticent interviewee; getting him to talk about stuff, despite your nearly reverential positivism*, sounded like it was pulling teeth.  Is it simply my recent art-school brainwashing that leads me to think that artists should be down with talking about their work?


I&#039;m still a little confused about one thing; does he actually do any straight curating work?  It seemed like there was a lot of talk about curatorial practice, which I understood in the context of his work (the choosing of artwork x or y as an element included in a piece) but I thought it was implied at some point that he also did just regular old curating (ie arranging and selecting pieces w/o any of his own).  Can someone with more knowledge help me out here?

(*not the doctrine.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(cough!)  nerds!  (cough!)</p>
<p>I enjoyed hearing about the work, but he seemed like a fairly grumpy/reticent interviewee; getting him to talk about stuff, despite your nearly reverential positivism*, sounded like it was pulling teeth.  Is it simply my recent art-school brainwashing that leads me to think that artists should be down with talking about their work?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a little confused about one thing; does he actually do any straight curating work?  It seemed like there was a lot of talk about curatorial practice, which I understood in the context of his work (the choosing of artwork x or y as an element included in a piece) but I thought it was implied at some point that he also did just regular old curating (ie arranging and selecting pieces w/o any of his own).  Can someone with more knowledge help me out here?</p>
<p>(*not the doctrine.)</p>
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