<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Episode 93: Gaylen Gerber/Michelle Grabner</title>
	<atom:link href="http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/</link>
	<description>Contemporay art talk without the ego</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:15:30 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Episode 216: WhiteWalls &#38; The Return of the Book Review : Bad at Sports</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-86877</link>
		<dc:creator>Episode 216: WhiteWalls &#38; The Return of the Book Review : Bad at Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-86877</guid>
		<description>[...] Susan Snodgrass Mary Patten National Endowment for the Arts Adelheid Mers Artforum Glenn Ligon Gaylen Gerber Joseph Grigely University of Chicago Press Susan Bielstein Quimby&#8217;s Centre Pompidou Printed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Susan Snodgrass Mary Patten National Endowment for the Arts Adelheid Mers Artforum Glenn Ligon Gaylen Gerber Joseph Grigely University of Chicago Press Susan Bielstein Quimby&#8217;s Centre Pompidou Printed [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Episode 182: Jim Lutes : Bad at Sports</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-83198</link>
		<dc:creator>Episode 182: Jim Lutes : Bad at Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-83198</guid>
		<description>[...] David Salle Jerry Saltz Illinois State University Jim Yood Barbara Rossi Jim Nutt Judy Ledgerwood Gaylen Gerber egg tempera paint MCA Lester Young Valerie Carberry Gallery Richard Carr Hancock [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Salle Jerry Saltz Illinois State University Jim Yood Barbara Rossi Jim Nutt Judy Ledgerwood Gaylen Gerber egg tempera paint MCA Lester Young Valerie Carberry Gallery Richard Carr Hancock [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Shark</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68614</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-68614</guid>
		<description>Gerber is a political animal.....not afraid to kiss a &#039;collector&#039; the likes of Howard Stone&#039;s behind, in the hopes of currying position and favor.....he has in the words of one prominent curator, &#039;one high school level idea&#039;- that he has parlayed into a half ass/kiss ass career. John Henderson probably just dumped a good sum of $$$ &#039;studying&#039; with this con job/fraud and simply hasn&#039;t come to terms with the fact that he&#039;s been had - 

Sorry John this kind of generic, academic junk, has had its day - its over. This, is an attitude being widely accepted and discussed in an art world weary of the Gerber like mediocrities whose only real goal is careerist power and position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerber is a political animal&#8230;..not afraid to kiss a &#8216;collector&#8217; the likes of Howard Stone&#8217;s behind, in the hopes of currying position and favor&#8230;..he has in the words of one prominent curator, &#8216;one high school level idea&#8217;- that he has parlayed into a half ass/kiss ass career. John Henderson probably just dumped a good sum of $$$ &#8217;studying&#8217; with this con job/fraud and simply hasn&#8217;t come to terms with the fact that he&#8217;s been had &#8211; </p>
<p>Sorry John this kind of generic, academic junk, has had its day &#8211; its over. This, is an attitude being widely accepted and discussed in an art world weary of the Gerber like mediocrities whose only real goal is careerist power and position.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68599</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-68599</guid>
		<description>Umm --- And you might want to LOOK a bit and &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; think, rather than spout what you&#039;ve been told. He&#039;s a derivative, by-the-book, do-as-you&#039;re-told, tee-hee-hee-neo-dada, consensus bore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm &#8212; And you might want to LOOK a bit and <i>really</i> think, rather than spout what you&#8217;ve been told. He&#8217;s a derivative, by-the-book, do-as-you&#8217;re-told, tee-hee-hee-neo-dada, consensus bore.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Henderson</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-68504</link>
		<dc:creator>John Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-68504</guid>
		<description>Um...you might want to think a bit. Gaylen&#039;s a fucking good artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;you might want to think a bit. Gaylen&#8217;s a fucking good artist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-42287</guid>
		<description>I must add, that indeed --- Vero mundi lumen fido, Jesum Christum. You, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must add, that indeed &#8212; Vero mundi lumen fido, Jesum Christum. You, probably not.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-42217</guid>
		<description>Oh come on --- it was not at all hidden. As I said, &quot;Silly French --- silly Latin.&quot; It was a joke --- and GG is indeed a maker of grey bullshit. There I said it in English for you. I hope you can read it. Es tut mir Leid, dass du dich von anderen Sprachen bedroht fühlst. Konsensens-Arschloch. Also, maybe you should read the meaning of your stolen Latin, before you cut and paste out of Christian sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on &#8212; it was not at all hidden. As I said, &#8220;Silly French &#8212; silly Latin.&#8221; It was a joke &#8212; and GG is indeed a maker of grey bullshit. There I said it in English for you. I hope you can read it. Es tut mir Leid, dass du dich von anderen Sprachen bedroht fühlst. Konsensens-Arschloch. Also, maybe you should read the meaning of your stolen Latin, before you cut and paste out of Christian sources.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Shark</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-42198</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-42198</guid>
		<description>wow! I think L means he or she thought only consensoriat people could speak latin....

well Mark, I guess you are just not cool.....as for &#039;L&#039; I guess we now know it is possible to argue with perfection- as exemplified by your dead-on assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! I think L means he or she thought only consensoriat people could speak latin&#8230;.</p>
<p>well Mark, I guess you are just not cool&#8230;..as for &#8216;L&#8217; I guess we now know it is possible to argue with perfection- as exemplified by your dead-on assessment.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-41971</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-41971</guid>
		<description>wow! before i read this blog i thought only cool people could speak latin...
latin should be used to say poignant, it doesnt have to be profound but at least it should be poignant and contextual...
not a callout saying someone is talking bull and you just dont wanna own up to it

fides mundi lumen asshole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! before i read this blog i thought only cool people could speak latin&#8230;<br />
latin should be used to say poignant, it doesnt have to be profound but at least it should be poignant and contextual&#8230;<br />
not a callout saying someone is talking bull and you just dont wanna own up to it</p>
<p>fides mundi lumen asshole!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brad "not duncan" farwell</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-40744</link>
		<dc:creator>brad "not duncan" farwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-40744</guid>
		<description>(cough!)  nerds!  (cough!)

I enjoyed hearing about the work, but he seemed like a fairly grumpy/reticent interviewee; getting him to talk about stuff, despite your nearly reverential positivism*, sounded like it was pulling teeth.  Is it simply my recent art-school brainwashing that leads me to think that artists should be down with talking about their work?


I&#039;m still a little confused about one thing; does he actually do any straight curating work?  It seemed like there was a lot of talk about curatorial practice, which I understood in the context of his work (the choosing of artwork x or y as an element included in a piece) but I thought it was implied at some point that he also did just regular old curating (ie arranging and selecting pieces w/o any of his own).  Can someone with more knowledge help me out here?

(*not the doctrine.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(cough!)  nerds!  (cough!)</p>
<p>I enjoyed hearing about the work, but he seemed like a fairly grumpy/reticent interviewee; getting him to talk about stuff, despite your nearly reverential positivism*, sounded like it was pulling teeth.  Is it simply my recent art-school brainwashing that leads me to think that artists should be down with talking about their work?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a little confused about one thing; does he actually do any straight curating work?  It seemed like there was a lot of talk about curatorial practice, which I understood in the context of his work (the choosing of artwork x or y as an element included in a piece) but I thought it was implied at some point that he also did just regular old curating (ie arranging and selecting pieces w/o any of his own).  Can someone with more knowledge help me out here?</p>
<p>(*not the doctrine.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-40137</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-40137</guid>
		<description>Very funny Hudg! --- but you failed on the &quot;cana&quot; --- that means &quot;grey&quot; (feminine ending to match &quot;merda&quot;) --- and insinuates less explicity a female dog (&quot;canus&quot;). It means &quot;Grey bullshit disturbs the &lt;i&gt;(rational)&lt;/i&gt; mind. That&#039;s why it is &quot;animos&quot; (masculine accusative) instead of &quot;animas&quot; (feminine accusative); &quot;animas&quot;  would mean the soul or feelings. But you got the Latin plural for abstract --- so you are a Latin victim too! I was just studying and then thought I&#039;d dream up a sentence--- a picture with silly French, a comment with silly Latin.

Tag back! (grin)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny Hudg! &#8212; but you failed on the &#8220;cana&#8221; &#8212; that means &#8220;grey&#8221; (feminine ending to match &#8220;merda&#8221;) &#8212; and insinuates less explicity a female dog (&#8220;canus&#8221;). It means &#8220;Grey bullshit disturbs the <i>(rational)</i> mind. That&#8217;s why it is &#8220;animos&#8221; (masculine accusative) instead of &#8220;animas&#8221; (feminine accusative); &#8220;animas&#8221;  would mean the soul or feelings. But you got the Latin plural for abstract &#8212; so you are a Latin victim too! I was just studying and then thought I&#8217;d dream up a sentence&#8212; a picture with silly French, a comment with silly Latin.</p>
<p>Tag back! (grin)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hudgens</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39888</link>
		<dc:creator>Hudgens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39888</guid>
		<description>Merda taurorum animas conturbit is the more typical saying of &quot;Bullshit baffles the mind&quot; the cana implies a channel or path in which the bullshit baffles the mind/spirit/brain.

Basically its all Non Gradus Anus Rodentum to use latin ad nauseam :P

Tag your it Mark (grin) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merda taurorum animas conturbit is the more typical saying of &#8220;Bullshit baffles the mind&#8221; the cana implies a channel or path in which the bullshit baffles the mind/spirit/brain.</p>
<p>Basically its all Non Gradus Anus Rodentum to use latin ad nauseam <img src='http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tag your it Mark (grin)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39637</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39637</guid>
		<description>Paul sent out the following e-mail

In City Council today they won 38 – 11. But we didn’t lose. 

We’ve galvanized Chicago artists, the Chicago art community and a lot of the public.  This is a wake up call.  In just 4 days of efforts we went from perhaps 2 alderman supporting our efforts to 11 who stood up to be counted and say they think something is wrong with how Chicago is addressing Public Art.  That’s a very significant accomplishment.

The Department of Cultural Affairs has a lot of work to do to gain the confidence of their constituency.  It is possible for them to use the passage of their ordinance as a genesis for a much better working procedure than the one they had previously.  Let’s encourage them to do that.  Since they no longer have Public Art Panels they can now post complete and thorough information about forthcoming commissions on their website. We should ask for that until it happens with regularity.

It is obvious that we made a big difference.  My message to you is to not give up. Stay involved.  Get to know your alderman. Watch what goes on in art and in government and in art in government.  Demand what you know is right.  Don’t be timid.

We’re beginning to get national attention

Think about how to parlay what we’ve been working on together for the past few days into what is good for you and your art in this City and beyond. 

Think about what the Department of Cultural Affairs has to do to make you proud of them.  Let’s see that they do that.  They are capable.

Thank you,
Paul Klein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul sent out the following e-mail</p>
<p>In City Council today they won 38 – 11. But we didn’t lose. </p>
<p>We’ve galvanized Chicago artists, the Chicago art community and a lot of the public.  This is a wake up call.  In just 4 days of efforts we went from perhaps 2 alderman supporting our efforts to 11 who stood up to be counted and say they think something is wrong with how Chicago is addressing Public Art.  That’s a very significant accomplishment.</p>
<p>The Department of Cultural Affairs has a lot of work to do to gain the confidence of their constituency.  It is possible for them to use the passage of their ordinance as a genesis for a much better working procedure than the one they had previously.  Let’s encourage them to do that.  Since they no longer have Public Art Panels they can now post complete and thorough information about forthcoming commissions on their website. We should ask for that until it happens with regularity.</p>
<p>It is obvious that we made a big difference.  My message to you is to not give up. Stay involved.  Get to know your alderman. Watch what goes on in art and in government and in art in government.  Demand what you know is right.  Don’t be timid.</p>
<p>We’re beginning to get national attention</p>
<p>Think about how to parlay what we’ve been working on together for the past few days into what is good for you and your art in this City and beyond. </p>
<p>Think about what the Department of Cultural Affairs has to do to make you proud of them.  Let’s see that they do that.  They are capable.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Paul Klein</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39620</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39620</guid>
		<description>I like Michell Grabner on the show too ---usually --- I was referring to the interviewee&#039;s art, &quot;thoughts,&quot; etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Michell Grabner on the show too &#8212;usually &#8212; I was referring to the interviewee&#8217;s art, &#8220;thoughts,&#8221; etc.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Balzac</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39150</link>
		<dc:creator>Balzac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39150</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t know, I always like it when Ms. Grabner is on the show, she has lots of interesting stuff to say and talks way way too fast.

Amusing use of &quot;Touch of Grey&quot; as the intro music for Gaylen Gerber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I always like it when Ms. Grabner is on the show, she has lots of interesting stuff to say and talks way way too fast.</p>
<p>Amusing use of &#8220;Touch of Grey&#8221; as the intro music for Gaylen Gerber.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lekrunk</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39134</link>
		<dc:creator>Lekrunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39134</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m surprised to find myself agreeing with MSB on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised to find myself agreeing with MSB on this one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-39075</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39075</guid>
		<description>.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-38994</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-38994</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t recall a whole lot of latin, but that doesn&#039;t sond like an endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall a whole lot of latin, but that doesn&#8217;t sond like an endorsement.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-93-gaylen-gerbermichelle-grabner/comment-page-1/#comment-38939</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=125#comment-38939</guid>
		<description>Oh God, spare me. Merda taurorum cana animos conturbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God, spare me. Merda taurorum cana animos conturbit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
