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	<title>Comments on: Episode 115: Judy Ledgerwood with guest host Tony Tasset</title>
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	<description>Contemporay art talk without the ego</description>
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		<title>By: Big Tits and Curvy Asses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Tits and Curvy Asses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Big Tits and Curvy Asses...&lt;/strong&gt;

Interesting thing was, on Monday, I was actually at Google visiting for lunch. I was waiting in the lobby when one of the people who I was with saw the Governator on the front page of the Chronicle and picked up the paper. I saw myself on the top left ...</description>
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<p>Interesting thing was, on Monday, I was actually at Google visiting for lunch. I was waiting in the lobby when one of the people who I was with saw the Governator on the front page of the Chronicle and picked up the paper. I saw myself on the top left &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bahl Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bahl Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you high or simply incoherent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you high or simply incoherent?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Maycumber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Maycumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
There are definite gender issues here but the live action dynamics is much more interesting than the incestual labrynth all be it personally fascinating art world dribble.  There are three men in that room and one women, I think she holds her own.-Hot and spicey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are definite gender issues here but the live action dynamics is much more interesting than the incestual labrynth all be it personally fascinating art world dribble.  There are three men in that room and one women, I think she holds her own.-Hot and spicey.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hamann</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-115-judy-ledgerwood-with-guest-host-tony-tasset/comment-page-1/#comment-77094</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hamann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this episode was pretty darn entertaining. 


Any episode that has RunDMC gets a thumbs up in my book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this episode was pretty darn entertaining. </p>
<p>Any episode that has RunDMC gets a thumbs up in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Caliope</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-115-judy-ledgerwood-with-guest-host-tony-tasset/comment-page-1/#comment-77007</link>
		<dc:creator>Caliope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would a contemporary artist (Ledgerwood) be overly concerned with the big bad group of hyper-male AbEx artists? This is not 1957. Those issues have already been worked out by scores of other artists, even by their own wives. 

This is not to discount Ledgerwood&#039;s paintings, though. Just get a different reason for painting. Your painting is not important simply because you invoke Pollock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would a contemporary artist (Ledgerwood) be overly concerned with the big bad group of hyper-male AbEx artists? This is not 1957. Those issues have already been worked out by scores of other artists, even by their own wives. </p>
<p>This is not to discount Ledgerwood&#8217;s paintings, though. Just get a different reason for painting. Your painting is not important simply because you invoke Pollock.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, judy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, judy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when people refer to &quot;most people.&quot; I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong Peter, I just wonder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when people refer to &#8220;most people.&#8221; I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong Peter, I just wonder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter noser</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter noser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not here. Whether you know anything or not, David, is beside the point. The boredom shown here in the lack of comments has nothing to do with any opposite group, whether you are in it or not. This isn&#039;t about you. To repeat, most people find this ‘classic’ podcast, the explanation and this art boring. We are not afraid, we are bored. One of my bottom five.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not here. Whether you know anything or not, David, is beside the point. The boredom shown here in the lack of comments has nothing to do with any opposite group, whether you are in it or not. This isn&#8217;t about you. To repeat, most people find this ‘classic’ podcast, the explanation and this art boring. We are not afraid, we are bored. One of my bottom five.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Peter, I don&#039;t think Duncan was referring to me when he referred to the smackdown, since I&#039;m rather agnostic on the subject.

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve ever been much good at being &quot;sharkie&quot; anyhow - I&#039;ve sorta hung up my fin. I&#039;m more interested in concepts in this case. Regardless of the relative merits of the works in question (I&#039;ve got very little opinion on them, having had very little exposure to them), there&#039;s usually something interesting to dig into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Peter, I don&#8217;t think Duncan was referring to me when he referred to the smackdown, since I&#8217;m rather agnostic on the subject.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve ever been much good at being &#8220;sharkie&#8221; anyhow &#8211; I&#8217;ve sorta hung up my fin. I&#8217;m more interested in concepts in this case. Regardless of the relative merits of the works in question (I&#8217;ve got very little opinion on them, having had very little exposure to them), there&#8217;s usually something interesting to dig into.</p>
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		<title>By: peter noser</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter noser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on. You blame the Sharks if they are here and if they are not. One, David, is here, and is that a smack down? I think the amount of commentary comes from the subject. Most people find this &#039;classic&#039; podcast, the explanation and this art boring. We are not afraid, we are bored. One of my bottom five.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on. You blame the Sharks if they are here and if they are not. One, David, is here, and is that a smack down? I think the amount of commentary comes from the subject. Most people find this &#8216;classic&#8217; podcast, the explanation and this art boring. We are not afraid, we are bored. One of my bottom five.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy to own a Ledgerwood :) I luv her pretty paintings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy to own a Ledgerwood <img src='http://badatsports.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I luv her pretty paintings.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sleepy. I guess I figured that&#039;s what it was about, but I must confess that I still don&#039;t quite get it. What I mean is this - the narrative doesn&#039;t quite make sense to me.

I&#039;d like to think that people would weigh in if they have something to say, particuarly the subjec(s) of your piece. Wesley&#039;s digging into the particulars at SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sleepy. I guess I figured that&#8217;s what it was about, but I must confess that I still don&#8217;t quite get it. What I mean is this &#8211; the narrative doesn&#8217;t quite make sense to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that people would weigh in if they have something to say, particuarly the subjec(s) of your piece. Wesley&#8217;s digging into the particulars at SF.</p>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David it would seem that fear and trepidation has shut down our blog.  

When I was a student, Judy&#039;s paintings were position very much as taking on the issues of a male dominated painting tradition, as you heard her say in the interview.  She maded/makes paintings that would/do take as their scope to carve out a space... or maybe to take back elements of painting that had been gendered as male.  The idea being that a feminine might still have something to add to genres that had collapsed (often under there own macho weight) in terms of their relevance in the contemporary art world.  So she took those elements on. Or at least those she felt a need to resuscitate.

I&#039;m too tired to be the one to do this but I&#039;m afraid that no one else will under threat of a serious smack down.  

So I can cover my &quot;back side...&quot; This is the history as I understand it though the bits and pieces I read in the pages of the New Art Examiner and Art Forum and the courses I took from the authors of those articles, whether that history is correct or not I can&#039;t say. But the questions about the gendering of painting still seems to have some traction.

I don&#039;t know I&#039;m tired so maybe I just made this all up.  Kathryn Hixson is back to town so maybe we can ask her when she comes on in feb or march.

Regardless, Judy is still in my top five.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David it would seem that fear and trepidation has shut down our blog.  </p>
<p>When I was a student, Judy&#8217;s paintings were position very much as taking on the issues of a male dominated painting tradition, as you heard her say in the interview.  She maded/makes paintings that would/do take as their scope to carve out a space&#8230; or maybe to take back elements of painting that had been gendered as male.  The idea being that a feminine might still have something to add to genres that had collapsed (often under there own macho weight) in terms of their relevance in the contemporary art world.  So she took those elements on. Or at least those she felt a need to resuscitate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m too tired to be the one to do this but I&#8217;m afraid that no one else will under threat of a serious smack down.  </p>
<p>So I can cover my &#8220;back side&#8230;&#8221; This is the history as I understand it though the bits and pieces I read in the pages of the New Art Examiner and Art Forum and the courses I took from the authors of those articles, whether that history is correct or not I can&#8217;t say. But the questions about the gendering of painting still seems to have some traction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know I&#8217;m tired so maybe I just made this all up.  Kathryn Hixson is back to town so maybe we can ask her when she comes on in feb or march.</p>
<p>Regardless, Judy is still in my top five.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An entertaining show. I especially enjoyed the bookend comments about best painters and Mr. Tasset&#039;s expression of love.

The movie review was great, if short. I guess it follows the rule of &quot;don&#039;t leave &#039;em wanting less.&quot; Forget about Roeper et.al - these two are hilarious.

On to painting - I know I&#039;m showing my ignorance, but I&#039;m sure that I don&#039;t understand the gender issues discussed here. Can someone please help me out - I  understand in principle the concept that darker is generally masculine and pastel is generally feminine (culturally at least), but I&#039;m hitting bottom otherwise. How does this dialectic relate to someone like Louise Nevelson, or Clifford Still? Would these just be considered exceptions to what is otherwise considered a cultural rule?

I ask this in a non-sarcastic way. I haven&#039;t got an opinion about Ms. Ledgerwood&#039;s work, and have only seen it on-line for the most part. 

I enjoyed the section dealing with the conceptual vs. the illustrative, and how all that relates to language. Personally I would have liked to have heard more on that subject.

The other point that I think is really interesting is that scale changes everything. Because of the fact that art objects have to create their own context to work I think it&#039;s worth noting the difference in experience the physicality of the work and the iconographic quality it may take on if reduced in size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An entertaining show. I especially enjoyed the bookend comments about best painters and Mr. Tasset&#8217;s expression of love.</p>
<p>The movie review was great, if short. I guess it follows the rule of &#8220;don&#8217;t leave &#8216;em wanting less.&#8221; Forget about Roeper et.al &#8211; these two are hilarious.</p>
<p>On to painting &#8211; I know I&#8217;m showing my ignorance, but I&#8217;m sure that I don&#8217;t understand the gender issues discussed here. Can someone please help me out &#8211; I  understand in principle the concept that darker is generally masculine and pastel is generally feminine (culturally at least), but I&#8217;m hitting bottom otherwise. How does this dialectic relate to someone like Louise Nevelson, or Clifford Still? Would these just be considered exceptions to what is otherwise considered a cultural rule?</p>
<p>I ask this in a non-sarcastic way. I haven&#8217;t got an opinion about Ms. Ledgerwood&#8217;s work, and have only seen it on-line for the most part. </p>
<p>I enjoyed the section dealing with the conceptual vs. the illustrative, and how all that relates to language. Personally I would have liked to have heard more on that subject.</p>
<p>The other point that I think is really interesting is that scale changes everything. Because of the fact that art objects have to create their own context to work I think it&#8217;s worth noting the difference in experience the physicality of the work and the iconographic quality it may take on if reduced in size.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contraire! Actually, we sharks have a pictorial essay of the &#039;artist&#039;s&#039; work up at sharkforum honoring this momentous occasion.</description>
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		<title>By: Balzac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balzac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insert the Shark ensemble exploding here.</description>
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