Comments on: Episode 109: Roger Brown Study Collection http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/ Contemporay art talk without the ego Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:15:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mark Staff Brandl http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-69436 Mark Staff Brandl Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:34:00 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-69436 Good luck RBSC! It's sounds terrible about the Orthodox Church. I went there when I was studying Russian Art History way back. It was beautiful! I hope it gets some funding too. The only thing that bothers me is why it all has to be so "Star Search/American Idol/Deutschland Sucht den Superstar" shit with voting and all. I understand competition, but such competition is not real, only invented to create losers (not winners really). Art and culture are neither gambling nor sport. Good luck RBSC!
It’s sounds terrible about the Orthodox Church. I went there when I was studying Russian Art History way back. It was beautiful! I hope it gets some funding too. The only thing that bothers me is why it all has to be so “Star Search/American Idol/Deutschland Sucht den Superstar” shit with voting and all. I understand competition, but such competition is not real, only invented to create losers (not winners really). Art and culture are neither gambling nor sport.

]]> By: brad farwell http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68925 brad farwell Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:22:54 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68925 segue says what? segue says what?

]]> By: Richard http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68762 Richard Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:35:39 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68762 Wow the new Reader format utterly sucks. How much longer until that POS goes under. It has been a rapid decline. Wow the new Reader format utterly sucks. How much longer until that POS goes under. It has been a rapid decline.

]]> By: brad farwell http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68434 brad farwell Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:21:56 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68434 I also fear that there are some other, perhaps more pressing, candidates for grant money on the site. The Russian Orthodox church is a architecturally significant building with no clear connection to a larger funding structure (ie the schooluseum, in RBSC's case) that is really falling the hell apart. I've seen it in person, and it looks like it got beat with a stick. As Lisa seemed to imply, there are so many things wrong with this 'vote for your favorite thing!' structure. Not that the house isn't a great thing and worthy of support... but i wish there were some way to say "hey, these five things seem like they are worth supporting, why don't you spread it around". And it would be nice if I could see the amount everybody is asking for: The viking ship is definitely worth some money, but what if they want the whole pot? Or if $100,000 would prevent the viking ship from imploding, that would be worth it, while $25,000 to repaint bits of it a shinier gold would be not worth it. Bad poorly-thought-out token pseudo-democratic web-interaction! Bad! I also fear that there are some other, perhaps more pressing, candidates for grant money on the site. The Russian Orthodox church is a architecturally significant building with no clear connection to a larger funding structure (ie the schooluseum, in RBSC’s case) that is really falling the hell apart. I’ve seen it in person, and it looks like it got beat with a stick.

As Lisa seemed to imply, there are so many things wrong with this ‘vote for your favorite thing!’ structure. Not that the house isn’t a great thing and worthy of support… but i wish there were some way to say “hey, these five things seem like they are worth supporting, why don’t you spread it around”. And it would be nice if I could see the amount everybody is asking for: The viking ship is definitely worth some money, but what if they want the whole pot? Or if $100,000 would prevent the viking ship from imploding, that would be worth it, while $25,000 to repaint bits of it a shinier gold would be not worth it.

Bad poorly-thought-out token pseudo-democratic web-interaction! Bad!

]]> By: brad farwell http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68428 brad farwell Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:03:43 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68428 You know, the RBSC is great, but $20 is a rip. $20 for the MOMA is a rip, and they have a mammoth space with a huge collection of international blahblah. $10 for a movie is a rip, and Miramax doesn't have an educational mission. I am so tired of ridiculous jacked-up museum admission; wtf do they think will go to these things if they have to pay a bunch of money? Who would go more than once? How can I *study* something at $20 a peep? If we're trying to get people excited about shit like art, especially people who aren't necessarily up to their armpits in it already, shouldn't we make the bar to entry a bit lower? just a thought from your local curmudgeon. Anyhow, anybody wants a hi-res scan of an SAIC or AIC ID, just let me know. You know, the RBSC is great, but $20 is a rip. $20 for the MOMA is a rip, and they have a mammoth space with a huge collection of international blahblah. $10 for a movie is a rip, and Miramax doesn’t have an educational mission. I am so tired of ridiculous jacked-up museum admission; wtf do they think will go to these things if they have to pay a bunch of money? Who would go more than once? How can I *study* something at $20 a peep? If we’re trying to get people excited about shit like art, especially people who aren’t necessarily up to their armpits in it already, shouldn’t we make the bar to entry a bit lower?

just a thought from your local curmudgeon.

Anyhow, anybody wants a hi-res scan of an SAIC or AIC ID, just let me know.

]]> By: Bill Dolan http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68210 Bill Dolan Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:50:54 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68210 Sorry, I've been busy voting for the Brown Collection. It's amazing how Chicago artists quickly fade away after having a great career or even a great couple of decades. This collection, plus efforts by DePaul's art museum and Corbett vs. Dempsey are helping this city deal with its amnesia toward its art history. Thanks for a great show! Sorry, I’ve been busy voting for the Brown Collection. It’s amazing how Chicago artists quickly fade away after having a great career or even a great couple of decades. This collection, plus efforts by DePaul’s art museum and Corbett vs. Dempsey are helping this city deal with its amnesia toward its art history.

Thanks for a great show!

]]> By: Balzac http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68204 Balzac Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:46:15 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68204 Well, I wasn't so hyped about this show. I'm glad the Roger Brown house is there but not much to discuss here. Yes RBSC is nice, yes people should vote to save it... and that Kathryn story sounded like it was recorded in a hail storm. I can't keep the dialog moving all the time. Well, I wasn’t so hyped about this show. I’m glad the Roger Brown house is there but not much to discuss here. Yes RBSC is nice, yes people should vote to save it… and that Kathryn story sounded like it was recorded in a hail storm.

I can’t keep the dialog moving all the time.

]]> By: Mark Staff Brandl http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68176 Mark Staff Brandl Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:08:45 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68176 I always listen on Fridays, so at the end of the week. Then I comment, thus late, unless there is a big drawn-out fight. Did you get my Documenta/Biennale review? I'll be sending a longer contribution soon made with my art history students about the Rolf Ricke Collection at the Kunstmuseum Liechtenstein (we make it this Friday). I always listen on Fridays, so at the end of the week. Then I comment, thus late, unless there is a big drawn-out fight. Did you get my Documenta/Biennale review? I’ll be sending a longer contribution soon made with my art history students about the Rolf Ricke Collection at the Kunstmuseum Liechtenstein (we make it this Friday).

]]> By: Richard http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68171 Richard Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:43:39 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68171 I know where are the regulars, Balzac, Bill Dolan, the scattered others? I know where are the regulars, Balzac, Bill Dolan, the scattered others?

]]> By: hamlett dobbins http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-68136 hamlett dobbins Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:12:47 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-68136 welcome to the the tony and duncan chat room! i figured i would jump in, i was talking about tony fitzpatrick and his drawings/prints the other day with my drawing class, i was showing some images from that last book of drawings (they love the images) and i was talking about how in your slide talk (at the u of iowa in the late nineties) that you talked passionately about not using the word "outsider." talking about "outsider" vs "insider" led to a great discussion in the class. i also retold the story about how at the reception following the talk at the Keith Achopol's house that tony said "guys, you know what the key to working with dealers is? every-time you talk to them you act like you're about to punch them right in the face." my students love that story too. thanks for the great shows, keep up the great work. long live bad at sports. welcome to the the tony and duncan chat room!
i figured i would jump in, i was talking about tony fitzpatrick and his drawings/prints the other day with my drawing class, i was showing some images from that last book of drawings (they love the images) and i was talking about how in your slide talk (at the u of iowa in the late nineties) that you talked passionately about not using the word “outsider.” talking about “outsider” vs “insider” led to a great discussion in the class. i also retold the story about how at the reception following the talk at the Keith Achopol’s house that tony said “guys, you know what the key to working with dealers is? every-time you talk to them you act like you’re about to punch them right in the face.” my students love that story too.

thanks for the great shows, keep up the great work.

long live bad at sports.

]]> By: duncan. http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67950 duncan. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:40:11 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67950 awesome!!! awesome!!!

]]> By: tony fitzpatrick http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67949 tony fitzpatrick Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:19:21 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67949 will do.... will do….

]]> By: duncan. http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67946 duncan. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:20:03 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67946 Oh and you can and should vote everyday. Oh and you can and should vote everyday.

]]> By: duncan. http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67945 duncan. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:18:51 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67945 No, they are via-ing for a 50,000 grant for building repairs but they are in an "american idol" style vote off with 24 other chicago-land landmarks preserved by the national trust. Only 13 get funded and the roger brown study collection is on the cusp. We need to make sure it stays on there. Although not a total glimps into our past the collection preserves the early Imagist world with a significant collection of Chicago Artists and Midwestern Outsider Artists. So I guess "save" was extreme. "Help" would be better. So, HELP our Roger Brown Study Collection vote today. No, they are via-ing for a 50,000 grant for building repairs but they are in an “american idol” style vote off with 24 other chicago-land landmarks preserved by the national trust. Only 13 get funded and the roger brown study collection is on the cusp. We need to make sure it stays on there. Although not a total glimps into our past the collection preserves the early Imagist world with a significant collection of Chicago Artists and Midwestern Outsider Artists.

So I guess “save” was extreme. “Help” would be better. So, HELP our Roger Brown Study Collection vote today.

]]> By: tony fitzpatrick http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67942 tony fitzpatrick Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:50:35 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67942 I haven't heard the podcast yet -- is the RBSC in danger of going away? I haven’t heard the podcast yet — is the RBSC in danger of going away?

]]> By: Richard http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67941 Richard Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:39:49 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67941 Roger Brown Study Collection Roger Brown Study Collection

]]> By: tony fitzpatrick http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67937 tony fitzpatrick Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:03:29 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67937 What is the RBSC? What is the RBSC?

]]> By: duncan. http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-67933 duncan. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:45:38 +0000 http://badatsports.com/2007/episode-109-roger-brown-study-collection/#comment-67933 Save Our RBSC!!!! Register and Vote here... www.partnersinpreservation.com Save Our RBSC!!!! Register and Vote here…

http://www.partnersinpreservation.com

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