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	<title>Comments on: Call to Arms, an open letter from Paul Klein</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-83618</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta agree there with faux-John Currin, altho hindsight is perfect, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: John Currin</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-83615</link>
		<dc:creator>John Currin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking back here after a couple of years and want to report that the world did not explode after the ordinance passed.

Seems now, with 20/20 hindsight, like much ado about nothing....</description>
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<p>Seems now, with 20/20 hindsight, like much ado about nothing&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>diamond casino world casino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God my fucking head hurts after reading that.

Thanks Amy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God my fucking head hurts after reading that.</p>
<p>Thanks Amy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-60370</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, yeah, right. Thanks. You really cleared everything up faux-Marshall. Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, yeah, right. Thanks. You really cleared everything up faux-Marshall. Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Mcluhan</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-53848</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall Mcluhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Applause for J Currin for not only being inventive, but intelligently sniffing out the fact that this troupe seems to spell trouble, seemingly corrupt, pointlessly abusive, defensive , disrespectful &amp; repetitive noise.Change the tune, at least do something, something different.

Bludgeoned to death with hacking at art theory &amp; history, gasping for air amidst such irrelevant lecturing.Over &amp; over again. Start a book club or weekly review already.
Really.We GO to lectures, consciously, pay for them, talk about them.Host lectures.


Not even an ounce of harmony, or a sense of our fully diverse fabric of reality, of which we all submit to, which is why it is likely you saw so few at the plaza.

I suggest you all make your blog exclusive &amp; shut it off from the public, this sounds exactly like what you need, set up a password so ONLY certain fish may post.THEN prove to the world what you have intended to prove through bashing skulls into barbed wire &amp; post your amazing results to the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!At least you won&#039;t be scaring all your seemingly wounded &quot;retarded &amp; idiotic&quot; (lovely terms by the fish) readers away. Secrecy &amp; mystery gathers attention too! 
Enough with the whining about anon- anon has a VAST history of which we are NOT the architects. merely observers. merely observers.
You might have gotten a little creative, inviting all of us to arrive with polished butchers cleavers &amp; canvas aprons, a cam corder &amp; something ridiculously unpractical &amp; or  practical &amp; extraordinary to express, truly, in favor of the beauty OF the absurd.

Discord, takes comprehension of it&#039;s mechanics, planning &amp; how it may or may not facilitate authentic change.

A full awareness &amp; sensitivity to think, to then enter into desire, which in turn compels one to trust in something tangible, alive &amp; vital.

Many , not all, involved in the arts WORK (in every sense), IN the arts, thus, those that work hard in the arts, inevitably, have some financial or social successes that one may create &amp; utilize as questionable spectacles.  In this instance, undermining any sort of thorough &amp; completely- ( if it must be, BRUTALLY ) honest, contextual exploration, of the realities at work, the times, of anything for that matter, etc.
&amp; people have always bought ANY ART THAT THEY WISH.

 If someone wants to buy what one may view as bad work, there is nothing one can do about it &amp; insulting artists is very provocative, but do it in the nude, to their face, brandishing clips, &amp; whips.

We like to read about interesting collectors, they exist as well.

A hypocritical gang running in circles of lackluster &amp; obvious patronizing rhetoric.

So, why not just, get creative.Realistic.
Depending on the individual these two simple qualities have been known to succeed on occasion.
In hand with decently consistent sincerity, even greater the odds, that is if one does not wish to enter into success via corruption &amp; lies, abuse &amp; belittling of human beings.
With issues regarding the environment &amp; an end to this war &amp; the tremendous horrors in Sudan, Africa &amp; let&#039;s not forget Joseph Kony, etc, i could go on &amp; on. The era of big fish and krill is OVER. A good suggestion. Over. Done. If anything have a sense of humor. American psycho.

I am surprised i even read this, &amp; it&#039;s safe to say no one in their right mind could possibly imagine reading this in it&#039;s entirety.
Who&#039;s magnificent brain are we trying to pick any ways guys?

The individual or &quot;being&quot; who i found the most lucid &amp; interesting, is William Conger, i suggest following his lead once in a while &amp; again, as to ensure &quot;art&quot; discussions that may be worthwhile.He is engaging, regardless of what anyone has to say about his personal life &amp; career, choices, human existence, it&#039;s a fact, he is engaging &amp; interesting.

No small feat when you are a human being.
If anything, humbling ourselves, is surely a way towards improvement.
Try your hand at being fiercely humble, see where it gets you.This is suggested for all of us, the mad, living &amp; deceased.Just the attempt, is magical.

&amp; i like overly polite in some instances, one garners a great deal when in the presence of individuals with their own unique brand of being anally overly polite. &amp; Conger does not remotely seem overly polite.
&amp; I am also not alone in that i like a certain kind of ass hole, i like a certain kind of unforgivable bastard that has such outrageously &amp; amazingly high concepts of thought &amp;/or belief &amp; morality, especially the ones that are HONEST.&amp; why are they honest? It benefits the sorts of results that they seek in their lives. &amp; it takes tact to get away with being an interesting &amp; pleasant ass hole to be around. Craft.

All the generalizing, &amp; all these diatribes simply amount to wandering self interest &amp; an inhumane, cold &amp; uninspired attitude to art.Which could be interesting for a WEEK &amp; with several anomalies of context.
So rarely breached in ANY ART WORLD.
It happens &amp; when it does it is an awe, for all of us, a life altering thrill &amp; a reality that does not manage, to take place- here.
Try not to take it for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applause for J Currin for not only being inventive, but intelligently sniffing out the fact that this troupe seems to spell trouble, seemingly corrupt, pointlessly abusive, defensive , disrespectful &amp; repetitive noise.Change the tune, at least do something, something different.</p>
<p>Bludgeoned to death with hacking at art theory &amp; history, gasping for air amidst such irrelevant lecturing.Over &amp; over again. Start a book club or weekly review already.<br />
Really.We GO to lectures, consciously, pay for them, talk about them.Host lectures.</p>
<p>Not even an ounce of harmony, or a sense of our fully diverse fabric of reality, of which we all submit to, which is why it is likely you saw so few at the plaza.</p>
<p>I suggest you all make your blog exclusive &amp; shut it off from the public, this sounds exactly like what you need, set up a password so ONLY certain fish may post.THEN prove to the world what you have intended to prove through bashing skulls into barbed wire &amp; post your amazing results to the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!At least you won&#8217;t be scaring all your seemingly wounded &#8220;retarded &amp; idiotic&#8221; (lovely terms by the fish) readers away. Secrecy &amp; mystery gathers attention too!<br />
Enough with the whining about anon- anon has a VAST history of which we are NOT the architects. merely observers. merely observers.<br />
You might have gotten a little creative, inviting all of us to arrive with polished butchers cleavers &amp; canvas aprons, a cam corder &amp; something ridiculously unpractical &amp; or  practical &amp; extraordinary to express, truly, in favor of the beauty OF the absurd.</p>
<p>Discord, takes comprehension of it&#8217;s mechanics, planning &amp; how it may or may not facilitate authentic change.</p>
<p>A full awareness &amp; sensitivity to think, to then enter into desire, which in turn compels one to trust in something tangible, alive &amp; vital.</p>
<p>Many , not all, involved in the arts WORK (in every sense), IN the arts, thus, those that work hard in the arts, inevitably, have some financial or social successes that one may create &amp; utilize as questionable spectacles.  In this instance, undermining any sort of thorough &amp; completely- ( if it must be, BRUTALLY ) honest, contextual exploration, of the realities at work, the times, of anything for that matter, etc.<br />
&amp; people have always bought ANY ART THAT THEY WISH.</p>
<p> If someone wants to buy what one may view as bad work, there is nothing one can do about it &amp; insulting artists is very provocative, but do it in the nude, to their face, brandishing clips, &amp; whips.</p>
<p>We like to read about interesting collectors, they exist as well.</p>
<p>A hypocritical gang running in circles of lackluster &amp; obvious patronizing rhetoric.</p>
<p>So, why not just, get creative.Realistic.<br />
Depending on the individual these two simple qualities have been known to succeed on occasion.<br />
In hand with decently consistent sincerity, even greater the odds, that is if one does not wish to enter into success via corruption &amp; lies, abuse &amp; belittling of human beings.<br />
With issues regarding the environment &amp; an end to this war &amp; the tremendous horrors in Sudan, Africa &amp; let&#8217;s not forget Joseph Kony, etc, i could go on &amp; on. The era of big fish and krill is OVER. A good suggestion. Over. Done. If anything have a sense of humor. American psycho.</p>
<p>I am surprised i even read this, &amp; it&#8217;s safe to say no one in their right mind could possibly imagine reading this in it&#8217;s entirety.<br />
Who&#8217;s magnificent brain are we trying to pick any ways guys?</p>
<p>The individual or &#8220;being&#8221; who i found the most lucid &amp; interesting, is William Conger, i suggest following his lead once in a while &amp; again, as to ensure &#8220;art&#8221; discussions that may be worthwhile.He is engaging, regardless of what anyone has to say about his personal life &amp; career, choices, human existence, it&#8217;s a fact, he is engaging &amp; interesting.</p>
<p>No small feat when you are a human being.<br />
If anything, humbling ourselves, is surely a way towards improvement.<br />
Try your hand at being fiercely humble, see where it gets you.This is suggested for all of us, the mad, living &amp; deceased.Just the attempt, is magical.</p>
<p>&amp; i like overly polite in some instances, one garners a great deal when in the presence of individuals with their own unique brand of being anally overly polite. &amp; Conger does not remotely seem overly polite.<br />
&amp; I am also not alone in that i like a certain kind of ass hole, i like a certain kind of unforgivable bastard that has such outrageously &amp; amazingly high concepts of thought &amp;/or belief &amp; morality, especially the ones that are HONEST.&amp; why are they honest? It benefits the sorts of results that they seek in their lives. &amp; it takes tact to get away with being an interesting &amp; pleasant ass hole to be around. Craft.</p>
<p>All the generalizing, &amp; all these diatribes simply amount to wandering self interest &amp; an inhumane, cold &amp; uninspired attitude to art.Which could be interesting for a WEEK &amp; with several anomalies of context.<br />
So rarely breached in ANY ART WORLD.<br />
It happens &amp; when it does it is an awe, for all of us, a life altering thrill &amp; a reality that does not manage, to take place- here.<br />
Try not to take it for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: BillDolan</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-47697</link>
		<dc:creator>BillDolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tribune has an article on it today and mentions the artist, Dustin Shuler.  There is also a little more info and history than the article I previously linked.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/lake/chi-spindle_11jul11,1,3249415.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tribune has an article on it today and mentions the artist, Dustin Shuler.  There is also a little more info and history than the article I previously linked.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/lake/chi-spindle_11jul11,1,3249415.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/lake/chi-spindle_11jul11,1,3249415.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Freitas</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-47547</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Freitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, unless I missed it, there wasn&#039;t one mention of the sculptor&#039;s name in that article.  Curious... who was the artist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, unless I missed it, there wasn&#8217;t one mention of the sculptor&#8217;s name in that article.  Curious&#8230; who was the artist?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Dolan</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-47512</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the finest pieces of public art is in danger of disappearing.  &quot;Spindle&quot; is going to be removed to make way for a Walgreens.

http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/lagrangepark/homepage/x844964391</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the finest pieces of public art is in danger of disappearing.  &#8220;Spindle&#8221; is going to be removed to make way for a Walgreens.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/lagrangepark/homepage/x844964391" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/lagrangepark/homepage/x844964391</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Staff Brandl</title>
		<link>http://badatsports.com/2007/call-to-arms-an-open-letter-from-paul-klein/comment-page-5/#comment-46458</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Staff Brandl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are even some things worse than plop sculpture. Most &quot;public art&quot; or &quot;Kunst am Bau&quot; as it is called here in Switzerland is highly decorative geometric crap (like Mosset&#039;s three two-story-high diagonal green stripes on one building) or, more recently, cutesy-pie Neo-Conceptual art like Zaugg&#039;s text works in the Gerber image above, or some kind of little addition that requires an hour of curatorial explanation to even notice it. To which the correct response is usually a &quot;knowing&quot; consensus-clique chuckle. Not my idea of aesthetic appreciation.

What&#039;s the problem with just buying things like good paintings or photos or sculptures or installations and putting them up, rather than insisting on bureaucratically-pleasing site-specific-justified art (which usually is not really &lt;i&gt;contextually&lt;/i&gt; specific, which is far more important)? I love to do things site- and contextually specific, but most Kunst am Bau is only nominally so, not truly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are even some things worse than plop sculpture. Most &#8220;public art&#8221; or &#8220;Kunst am Bau&#8221; as it is called here in Switzerland is highly decorative geometric crap (like Mosset&#8217;s three two-story-high diagonal green stripes on one building) or, more recently, cutesy-pie Neo-Conceptual art like Zaugg&#8217;s text works in the Gerber image above, or some kind of little addition that requires an hour of curatorial explanation to even notice it. To which the correct response is usually a &#8220;knowing&#8221; consensus-clique chuckle. Not my idea of aesthetic appreciation.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem with just buying things like good paintings or photos or sculptures or installations and putting them up, rather than insisting on bureaucratically-pleasing site-specific-justified art (which usually is not really <i>contextually</i> specific, which is far more important)? I love to do things site- and contextually specific, but most Kunst am Bau is only nominally so, not truly so.</p>
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