Comments on: Episode 19 Michelle Grabner pt. 2 http://badatsports.com/2006/episode-19-michelle-grabner-pt-2/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss Contemporay art talk without the ego Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:04:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard http://badatsports.com/2006/episode-19-michelle-grabner-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-79939 Richard Mon, 19 May 2008 20:03:56 +0000 http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=58#comment-79939 Your feedback is always appreciated, even two years after the fact! Your feedback is always appreciated, even two years after the fact!

]]> By: Mark Staff Brandl http://badatsports.com/2006/episode-19-michelle-grabner-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-79934 Mark Staff Brandl Sun, 18 May 2008 17:53:23 +0000 http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=58#comment-79934 I went back into the archives to download some stuff to listen to while driving recently. I listened to this post after meeting Michael Workman in Zurich, as well as listening to the early interview with Michael. These two shows are great! Michelle made so many pith statements and insightful commets that feel like citing them all! The whole deskilling thing, he analysis of the current "scene"-without-criticality situation and the "art historians are failed artists, but curators (of the roaming interntl set) are failed art historians" were all truly amazing. This is a clear "greatest hits" podcast. As is the Workman one, but I'll comment on that over there. I went back into the archives to download some stuff to listen to while driving recently. I listened to this post after meeting Michael Workman in Zurich, as well as listening to the early interview with Michael. These two shows are great!

Michelle made so many pith statements and insightful commets that feel like citing them all! The whole deskilling thing, he analysis of the current “scene”-without-criticality situation and the “art historians are failed artists, but curators (of the roaming interntl set) are failed art historians” were all truly amazing. This is a clear “greatest hits” podcast. As is the Workman one, but I’ll comment on that over there.

]]> By: mark http://badatsports.com/2006/episode-19-michelle-grabner-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-342 mark Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:54:36 +0000 http://badatsports.com/blog/?p=58#comment-342 Okay I know this episode is old. I just discovered this podcast so its all a new thing for me. The 2 Michelle Grabner and the Lane Relyea posts are my favorites so far. So Grabner mentions her concern about artists' focusing too much attn to career rather than the practice, and the type of practice she seems to mean is the studio practice. No arguement here really but I wonder if there is not a gray area here in this time of "post-studio" practices from artists like Tino Seghal where the art is made within the context of the show space. I am thinking of artists who are setting up practices where the art is made on site and the experimenting really happens there , the work is developed over the course of several exhibits thru dialog with others and thinking about each presentation. As opposed to an artist spending 4 years or so in his or her laboratory tinkering and refining the perfect product. But, I wonder too if there is not some degree of using the idea of "post studio" as an excuse for half-assism, but I also wonder if what she really laments is the lessening of intensely considered practices. A practice can be that regardless of whether or not a studio is involved, can it not? Anyway great podcast-it really gets me thinkin' an stuff. Okay I know this episode is old. I just discovered this podcast so its all a new thing for me. The 2 Michelle Grabner and the Lane Relyea posts are my favorites so far. So Grabner mentions her concern about artists’ focusing too much attn to career rather than the practice, and the type of practice she seems to mean is the studio practice. No arguement here really but I wonder if there is not a gray area here in this time of “post-studio” practices from artists like Tino Seghal where the art is made within the context of the show space. I am thinking of artists who are setting up practices where the art is made on site and the experimenting really happens there , the work is developed over the course of several exhibits thru dialog with others and thinking about each presentation. As opposed to an artist spending 4 years or so in his or her laboratory tinkering and refining the perfect product.
But, I wonder too if there is not some degree of using the idea of “post studio” as an excuse for half-assism, but I also wonder if what she really laments is the lessening of intensely considered practices. A practice can be that regardless of whether or not a studio is involved, can it not?
Anyway great podcast-it really gets me thinkin’ an stuff.

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